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Peter Copland and Isabel Shand
« on: Monday 02 April 18 14:00 BST (UK) »
Peter Copland married Isabel Shand 27 July 1805, Rathven, Banffshire (no witnesses mentioned).  They went on to have 7 children:
Margaret 1806-1876
William 1808-1854 (married to Helen Williamson Horn)
Peter 1811 -
Isabella 1812-1884
Jane 1815 -
Janet (Jessie) – 1818 – 1900
John 1820-1870   died in Australia
I have no birth date or death date for Peter.   Isabels birth date could possibly be January 1787 born in New Spynie, Moray if she is the daughter of William Shand and Margaret Young.
I cannot find Peter and Isabel in any census so possibly already died by 1841? 
Does anyone else have them in their family tree or have any information please?
Manson, Wilson, Copland, Craighead, Youngson, Ross, Thomson, Smith, Horn

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Re: Peter Copland and Isabel Shand
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 April 18 18:20 BST (UK) »
Have you tried LIBINDX? libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Peter Copland and Isabel Shand
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 April 18 18:27 BST (UK) »
Yes only managed to get their marriage date from there, thanks.
Manson, Wilson, Copland, Craighead, Youngson, Ross, Thomson, Smith, Horn

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Re: Peter Copland and Isabel Shand
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 December 18 18:03 GMT (UK) »
      DELETED       [ I mistakenly thought is was Peter, the son's birth, you were looking for.     Sorry.]

       


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Re: Peter Copland and Isabel Shand
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 December 18 18:43 GMT (UK) »

Scotland’s People Records

COPLAND   PETER   ISABEL SHAND   27/07/1805   Rathven

There were two Isabel’s born around the same time but given the names of their children the one you mention would seem to fit better.
SHAND   ISABEL   WILLIAM SHAND/MARGARET YOUNG   29/01/1787   New Spynie or Spynie
SHAND   ISABEL   JOHN SHAND/KATHRINE MORRISON    22/12/1788   Speymouth

Regarding Peter there a 5 Copland, in Aberdeenshire & 2 Coupland records both in the Orkneys, none seem ideal but maybe he was born somewhere in Aberdeenshire.

There is Isabella Coupland age 62 (1789) born Rathven, Banffshire (which may not be correct) on the 1851 census in
Low St. Buckie, Pauper Formerly Fish Dealer.


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Re: Peter Copland and Isabel Shand
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 December 18 18:50 GMT (UK) »
COPLAND   ISABELLA   79   Death registration   1871   Rathven

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Re: Peter Copland and Isabel Shand
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 December 18 19:29 GMT (UK) »
1861 census on SP Rathven    Banff 164/ 7/ 26   
COPELAND   ALEXANDER    23   
COPELAND   ISABELLA        37   
COPELAND   ELIZABETH     62   
COPELAND   ELIZABETH     32   
COPELAND   ISOBEL        68   
COPELAND   JANET        17   
COPELAND   ANN                26   

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Re: Peter Copland and Isabel Shand
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 December 18 20:48 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, I believe she is the daughter of William Shand and Margaret Young, I am still trying to confirm when she died and also when Peter died, there was a Peter Copland in the 1841 and 1851 census which could possibly be him and its unconfirmed so far.
Manson, Wilson, Copland, Craighead, Youngson, Ross, Thomson, Smith, Horn

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Re: Peter Copland and Isabel Shand
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 December 18 20:49 GMT (UK) »
Could you please provide a link to your previous thread about this couple? This would avoid duplication of effort.

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Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)