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« on: Wednesday 04 April 18 14:46 BST (UK) »
Marriage of Robert Pakenham to Anna Fowler 12th Sept 1900 Middleton Co Cork.
In 1901 Census both are resident West Beach Queenstown Urban Cork
In 1911 Census resident House 8 Ardbrack Kinsale with 2 children Leo 7, Rosemary 4 . Wife documented as Nancy in both censuses.

I am trying to locate birth for Robert Edward Michael Pakenham circa 1874/1875 states on census he was born in Co Armagh.  Wife born Co Tipperary.  Cannot locate either births on Civil Records or births for their children Leo & Rosemary.   Robert occ Lieut Infantry Activ List.

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Re: Pakenham
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 15:01 BST (UK) »
I see his father was Charles
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10357/5770622.pdf

There is a birth (and death) in Armagh of a Charles to Charles Pakenham and Emily Blanch Harrison in 1873
worth keeping in mind
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/cert_amends/cert_1873/2173295a.pdf
appears to have died 1877.

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Re: Pakenham
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 15:05 BST (UK) »
That couple had 3 more children listed as Unknown
1880 Male
1875 Male
1874 Male

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Re: Pakenham
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 15:07 BST (UK) »
1911 census says Leo and Rosemary born Liverpool, England-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Kinsale_Rural/Ardbrack/419479

Added- also says 1 child died before 1911 census
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Re: Pakenham
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 15:16 BST (UK) »
I see his father was Charles
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10357/5770622.pdf

There is a birth (and death) in Armagh of a Charles to Charles Pakenham and Emily Blanch Harrison in 1873
worth keeping in mind
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/cert_amends/cert_1873/2173295a.pdf
appears to have died 1877.
Thank you Sinann the male birth in 1874 could be Robert :)

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Re: Pakenham
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 15:17 BST (UK) »
Birth: PAKENHAM, ROBERT  IVO RAYMOND LYGON (mother Fowler)
GRO Reference: 1904  M Quarter in TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 163
(Ivo Raymond R.L. Pakenham died 1980 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVZ9-RDM9)

Birth: PAKENHAM, OSMOND  EDWARD MICHAEL (mother Fowler)
GRO Reference: 1905  J Quarter in TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 216
(Osmund Edward M. Pakenham died 1906 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2NY1-1S3)

Birth: PAKENHAM, EMILIE  ESTELLE ROSEMARY (mother Fowler)
GRO Reference: 1907  M Quarter in TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 230

Birth: PAKENHAM, RAYMOND  BERESFORD (mother Fowler) 
GRO Reference: 1908  M Quarter in TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 220

Birth: PAKENHAM, WILLIAM  ANTONY BERESFORD (mother Fowler) 
GRO Reference: 1911  M Quarter in TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 208  Occasional Copy: B
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Re: Pakenham
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 15:18 BST (UK) »
1911 census says Leo and Rosemary born Liverpool, England-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Kinsale_Rural/Ardbrack/419479

Added- also says 1 child died before 1911 census
Tks Aghadowey missed the Liverpool births of children.

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Re: Pakenham
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 15:20 BST (UK) »
Birth: PAKENHAM, ROBERT  IVO RAYMOND LYGON (mother Fowler)
GRO Reference: 1904  M Quarter in TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 163
(Ivo Raymond R.L. Pakenham died 1980 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVZ9-RDM9)

Birth: PAKENHAM, OSMOND  EDWARD MICHAEL (mother Fowler)
GRO Reference: 1905  J Quarter in TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 216
(Osmund Edward M. Pakenham died 1906 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2NY1-1S3)

Birth: PAKENHAM, EMILIE  ESTELLE ROSEMARY (mother Fowler)
GRO Reference: 1907  M Quarter in TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 230

Birth: PAKENHAM, RAYMOND  BERESFORD (mother Fowler) 
GRO Reference: 1908  M Quarter in TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 220

Birth: PAKENHAM, WILLIAM  ANTONY BERESFORD (mother Fowler) 
GRO Reference: 1911  M Quarter in TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 208  Occasional Copy: B
Thank you Aghadowey guess family moved a lot being military I know father Robert died in 1915

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Re: Pakenham
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 15:21 BST (UK) »
George De La P Pakenham married (1905) Elsie Fowler-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLSC-37S8

Children Raymond (1908) and William (1911) listed above are probably theirs
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