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Offline shellyesq

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Re: Naturalization Record
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 10 April 18 11:59 BST (UK) »
The naturalization was not done in the federal court, so the information above about the New York County Clerk's Office would be where you would have to order.  However, the naturalization records from that era did not give much detail.  Based on the index putting a slash through the boxes for port and date of arrival, I'm doubtful that this record contains the information you're looking for.

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Re: Naturalization Record
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 10 April 18 14:35 BST (UK) »
Steve -- I realise you are trying to find the naturalization record for Charles -- but I thought you were also trying to establish whether the Charles Henning who 'disappeared' from Hull - was the same Charles Henning who appears in USA.

I wonder if you have searched for an American marriage for him? His father shown on his Sculcoates marriage in 1859 is a Charles Henning, Horse Doctor.

If we could find one of his American marriages (if indeed he did marry the 2 apparantly different ladies shown on census records) --- AND he has given the same father he gives on his Sculcoates marriage - this would prove him to be your Charles. I realise you may have already searched for those --- my apologies if you have.
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Re: Naturalization Record
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 14 April 18 10:29 BST (UK) »
Steve -- I realise you are trying to find the naturalization record for Charles -- but I thought you were also trying to establish whether the Charles Henning who 'disappeared' from Hull - was the same Charles Henning who appears in USA.

I wonder if you have searched for an American marriage for him? His father shown on his Sculcoates marriage in 1859 is a Charles Henning, Horse Doctor.

If we could find one of his American marriages (if indeed he did marry the 2 apparantly different ladies shown on census records) --- AND he has given the same father he gives on his Sculcoates marriage - this would prove him to be your Charles. I realise you may have already searched for those --- my apologies if you have.

Yes I am trying to discover if this is my Charles Henning. If it is him it would appear that he would have had to arrive in the US between June 1861 and October 1863. Based on him being in the UK at the time of the 1861 census, an approximate 2 month sailing time, and having to live in the US for 5 years to become naturalized.

I have looked for the marriages and births of the daughters named on the 1870 without success. Now stuck again, any suggestions welcome, thanks.

Found a Charles Wilson from Norway aged 31 arriving in the US in May 1862........His wife Ann Henning that he left in the UK had been married before to a William Wilson, probably clutching at straws but could he have used that surname ?
YORKSHIRE: Duffin, Henning, Hampshire, Allerston, McLaren, Levett
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Re: Naturalization Record
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 14 April 18 20:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Steve,

You are correct in saying that the wife of Charles had a previous married name of Wilson (maiden name Levett). Her father was a William Levett - (a Musician which is interesting.)

Did the immigration record you found show an occupation? If so was it the same as your Charles --- a Carpenter/Joiner or the like?

That is all I can say though --- he could have used an alias to 'escape' I suppose but it is pure supposition - although it would be unusual for someone named Wilson to be born in Norway unless his father was a sailor or something -- but your Charles' father was a Horse Doctor, according to the marriage details.

I expect you have seen the 2 family trees on Ancestry -- which are no help at all. One has him in Hull and the other in USA ---- no parents shown, no immigration shown. I'm afraid he is a bit of an enigma.

I can't see an American marriage for him on line unfortunately. Someone suggested making enquiries about the naturalization record you found -- to see if there are any more details in the official records held in the USA. That appears to be the only avenue open to you at the moment - unless someone has access to New York? marriages  --- always the chance that he didn't actually marry over there though.

Is there anything in American newspapers or English newspapers about the family? You never know.

I am really sorry that I have been unable to help you, with what is a frustrating (but fascinating) query.

Good Luck with it -- I hope someone can help.

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Re: Naturalization Record
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 15 April 18 08:42 BST (UK) »
I am waiting to hear back about the naturalization record and have also ordered the death cert for the Charles Henning who passed away in Kearny, NJ in 1896 to see if that heralds some clues.

The immigration record for Charles Wilson gave occupation Laborer.

Strange thing too that I cannot find his wife Ann Henning on the 1871 census either. Though I do have her death certificate 1880 in Hull.

YORKSHIRE: Duffin, Henning, Hampshire, Allerston, McLaren, Levett
NORTHANTS: Garton, Eady

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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 15 April 18 19:37 BST (UK) »
I can't find Ann either in 1871 - checked under both Henning/Levett and variants and on a couple of sites.

These 2 have definitely decided to make researching them as difficult as they can for you!!

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Re: Naturalization Record
« Reply #15 on: Monday 16 April 18 01:19 BST (UK) »
Just following up on the two daughters shown in the US census, there is a marriage on 21 Nov 1880 between Annie P Henning & Archibald Robertson.   Annie is 17 and her parents are Charles Henning & Ann M Graff:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24S9-39Q

By 1900 she is 36 (but gives year of birth as 1853 so has been transcribed as older) and is living in Kearny, New Jersey with husband Archibald & 5 children - all born NY (Edit - youngest child born New Jersey) - and gives her father's birth place as Norway.  Also living with them is her widowed mother, Annie Henning, born Holland.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9JK-1XK

Added: According to a tree on Anc* daughter Annie's full name was Annie Margarita Peters Henning, although there is no source for this.  There is a link to a clipping of her obituary in the Winnipeg Tribune dated 10 Dec 1941.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Naturalization Record
« Reply #16 on: Monday 16 April 18 07:45 BST (UK) »
Just following up on the two daughters shown in the US census, there is a marriage on 21 Nov 1880 between Annie P Henning & Archibald Robertson.   Annie is 17 and her parents are Charles Henning & Ann M Graff:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24S9-39Q

By 1900 she is 36 (but gives year of birth as 1853 so has been transcribed as older) and is living in Kearny, New Jersey with husband Archibald & 5 children - all born NY (Edit - youngest child born New Jersey) - and gives her father's birth place as Norway.  Also living with them is her widowed mother, Annie Henning, born Holland.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9JK-1XK

Added: According to a tree on Anc* daughter Annie's full name was Annie Margarita Peters Henning, although there is no source for this.  There is a link to a clipping of her obituary in the Winnipeg Tribune dated 10 Dec 1941.
Wow this looks very interesting I will follow it up, thanks so much Jomot
YORKSHIRE: Duffin, Henning, Hampshire, Allerston, McLaren, Levett
NORTHANTS: Garton, Eady

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Re: Naturalization Record
« Reply #17 on: Monday 16 April 18 11:33 BST (UK) »
Hi stevejgarton,
I'll post my findings from Norway here, not really to do with the Naturalization Record.......



According to the death record his father was Norwegian and mother was Swedish:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FZHP-L5S

Also his father was a horse doctor and most probably a veterinary surgeon. I am not too sure about the father's name Charles but I have found a Carl Christian Henning to parents: Iver Henning, a vet and Maria Cathrina (Charlotte) Karsten born Sweden.

Carl was born 21 May 1833 in Trondheim Sør-Trøndelag - nr 136:
http://urn.digitalarkivet.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050613020231.jpg

Here is Iver Henning, a vet student and Maria Karsten's marriage record from Stockholm 1830 - nr.15. They moved to Trondheim in 1831:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lwq/


This could be the right family.


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