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Re: I'm searching for Florence Hargrave, likely born in Hull
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 14 April 18 13:47 BST (UK) »
Something called the "Sutton Diocese" was also mentioned as being related to my father's birth in Hull, does anybody know what that is? Googling has provided me with nothing on that.
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Hi Adam...As Sutton is village on the outskirts of Hull...it's most likely this:

https://www.achurchnearyou.com/church/19212/more-information/

http://www.suttonstjames.org/

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Re: I'm searching for Florence Hargrave, likely born in Hull
« Reply #10 on: Monday 16 April 18 19:14 BST (UK) »
My goodness - thank you so much! I had already found her mother's maiden name was Robinson, but how did you find the rest!?

The Florence Hargrave born in Hull in 1917 with mmn Robinson is likely to be a daughter of this marriage:

Ernest W Hargrave
Mary J Robinson

Jun qtr 1914 Hull 9d 525

Unfortunately the family appears to have suffered a major tragedy during the war as civilian casualties of enemy action on 19 March 1941.  The following were all killed at 38 Lissett Grove (which as you will see was not their home address):

Ernest William Hargrave aged 50
Mary Jane Hargrave aged 48, wife
Doris Hargrave aged 19, daughter
Ernest William Hargrave aged 15, son
Stephen Hargrave aged 13, son
Jean Hargrave aged 11, daughter

All of 42 Watton Grove.
Sheasby - Napton,
Hargrave - Hull,
Hurley - Cork,
Criswell - Yelling,
Shepherd - Yelling,
Turner - Chesterfield,
Parsons - Chesterfield,
Watson - Chesterfield,
Beresford - Chesterfield,

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Re: I'm searching for Florence Hargrave, likely born in Hull
« Reply #11 on: Monday 16 April 18 19:17 BST (UK) »
There is another birth in 1920 in Scarborough and a marriage there in 1952 - just a thought.  That Florence died in 2005 in Scarborough

Thanks Carole, I had already found this and figured it might be her, but it's good to hear someone else also worked it out.
She married James Wright, but so far I haven't found any record of a Florence Wright living in Scarborough.
Sheasby - Napton,
Hargrave - Hull,
Hurley - Cork,
Criswell - Yelling,
Shepherd - Yelling,
Turner - Chesterfield,
Parsons - Chesterfield,
Watson - Chesterfield,
Beresford - Chesterfield,

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Re: I'm searching for Florence Hargrave, likely born in Hull
« Reply #12 on: Monday 16 April 18 21:10 BST (UK) »
I think “loving daughter Evelyn” was Sarah Evelyn Hargrave mmn Robinson, birth reg Mar qtr 1915 Hull.

Her marriage:

Sarah E Hargrave
William H P Hitchin <<< presumably “in-law Bill” from the death notice

Sep qtr 1935 Hull

Death registered in Beverley Dec qtr 1999 as Sarah Evelyn Hitchin, birthdate 4 Feb 1915.

Thank you, yes, this is what Ancestry.com appears to be telling me.
Sheasby - Napton,
Hargrave - Hull,
Hurley - Cork,
Criswell - Yelling,
Shepherd - Yelling,
Turner - Chesterfield,
Parsons - Chesterfield,
Watson - Chesterfield,
Beresford - Chesterfield,


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Re: I'm searching for Florence Hargrave, likely born in Hull
« Reply #13 on: Monday 16 April 18 21:26 BST (UK) »
If your father has recently seen his birth cert - there should be an address where he was born and an address for Florence at the time of registration.

At the moment we are waiting to hear back (possibly after many weeks) from a court whether it is known what Florence's birth date was and what her address was at the time of my father's birth (10 Oct 1947).
Sheasby - Napton,
Hargrave - Hull,
Hurley - Cork,
Criswell - Yelling,
Shepherd - Yelling,
Turner - Chesterfield,
Parsons - Chesterfield,
Watson - Chesterfield,
Beresford - Chesterfield,

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Re: I'm searching for Florence Hargrave, likely born in Hull
« Reply #14 on: Monday 16 April 18 21:59 BST (UK) »
https://www.achurchnearyou.com/church/19212/more-information/

http://www.suttonstjames.org/

Carol

Thanks Carol, that's quite close to Lissett and Watton Grove, where the family of the Florence Hargrave who was born in 1917 lived/died.
Sheasby - Napton,
Hargrave - Hull,
Hurley - Cork,
Criswell - Yelling,
Shepherd - Yelling,
Turner - Chesterfield,
Parsons - Chesterfield,
Watson - Chesterfield,
Beresford - Chesterfield,

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Re: I'm searching for Florence Hargrave, likely born in Hull
« Reply #15 on: Monday 16 April 18 22:18 BST (UK) »
If your father has recently seen his birth cert - there should be an address where he was born and an address for Florence at the time of registration.

At the moment we are waiting to hear back (possibly after many weeks) from a court whether it is known what Florence's birth date was and what her address was at the time of my father's birth (10 Oct 1947).

While you are waiting, there should (as Carole says) be useful address information on the certificate itself.  If your father was not provided with a copy of it, it is open to you/him to order it from the GRO in the usual way, using the index information available from FreeBMD.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: I'm searching for Florence Hargrave, likely born in Hull
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 18:10 BST (UK) »
I've determined that Florence Hargrave born in 1917, who's family was killed in the Blitz, was indeed my grandmother. Not any other Florence.
Sheasby - Napton,
Hargrave - Hull,
Hurley - Cork,
Criswell - Yelling,
Shepherd - Yelling,
Turner - Chesterfield,
Parsons - Chesterfield,
Watson - Chesterfield,
Beresford - Chesterfield,

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Re: I'm searching for Florence Hargrave, likely born in Hull
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 17 April 18 18:17 BST (UK) »
That is good news (though a sad family story).  Are you able to share with us how you have made the positive link? Obviously no need to say if it is too sensitive.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)