Supporting documentation for John Jones, Lydia Williams, Leah Emazine Jones

[Dundee]

Here they are in 1841....

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ2R-66C

John is a Miller.

Unfortunately it is impossible to find JONES/WILLIAMS births via the GRO indexes as there are just so many possibilities.

Debra 

[Gadget]

That fits with the 1846 marriage but not with Leah's baptism entry. It would be easy to get to Liverpool area from Oswestry/Trefonen.  The marry in Wolverhampton in 1846.

Debra - Have you got access to the Australian records to show where John was born/parents?

[Gadget]

Tree has John's death as 1867, Victoria. Not sure of parents. It says Evan and Elizabeth, Guilsfield. Montgomeryshire. Marriage entry has it as John Jones, Labourer.  John is often equiv to Evan but the link is to an Evan who is a farmer of 57 acres!

[Dundee]

I see that they did use the name for one birth in Victoria.

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj

The only place to get info about John's parents would be his death cert but that hasn't been found.  His birthplace should be on the children's Victorian birth certs.

Debra 

[Gadget]

Unfortunately it is impossible to find JONES/WILLIAMS births via the GRO indexes as there are just so many possibilities.

Debra 

Leah's baptism is on FindMyPast.

[Dundee]

By family tradition, they had about 4 other children who died in infancy before moving to Australia

I was thinking of these ones.

Debra 

[Dundee]

Are the deceased children named on Lydia's death certificate?

Debra 

[Gadget]

Are the deceased children named on Lydia's death certificate?

Debra 

Online death record just has her parents. John's death entry (1867, Victoria) has parents as Evan(John on marriage cert) and Elizabeth*

The online tree has ~

England:
Leah 1840
Mary Ellen 1843- before 49
John 1847- before 49

Australia:
/Ann 1849
Charles 1851- 1910
Mary Ellen 1856


* Added - but see later post - information from intestate bond/ admon and 1851 census suggests that this is a different John.

[Gadget]

The Evan Jones, farmer, Guilsfield,  father of John on the online tree died  intestate 24 April 1855. There is a bond on the Welsh Wills site. Difficult to read but it's signed by Elizabeth Jones, his widow and an unidentified John Jones. Admon granted to Elizabeth on 9th Oct 1855.


Gadget

Added - just checked the 1851 census which is referred to in the online tree. Son John Jones is still living with parents and is 34, unmarried!!  So this one is not correct for Leah's father.