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Henry THOMAS - born Newquay 1833
« on: Saturday 14 April 18 23:20 BST (UK) »
needing help tracing this young man.  In 1833 births in Newquay were not recorded so the first trace of him would be in the 1841 census, but can't find him there either.
What I do know is that he arrived in Nelson New Zealand in 1895 as a seaman on the settlement ship Golconda.  I have been unable to trace a crewlist for that ship for that year.
Henry jumped ship in Nelson and married a young lady who travelled on that voyage. Henry died in Nelson.
His marriage certificate shows Newquay but his death certificate says Truro.  Stated his father was Henry and Mother named as Mary.
So my Henry should show in 1841 and 1851 census then disappear.  Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.  There could also be doubt about his age so I have been scouring the 1830 to 1840 Henry's still to no avail.  I am picking the religion would have been Wesleyan.  Thank you everyone.  Have attached copies of marriage and death certs

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Re: Henry THOMAS - born Newquay 1833
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 April 18 23:40 BST (UK) »
Can you clarify the date he arrived in NZ?

Think you may mean 1855 not 1895
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Re: Henry THOMAS - born Newquay 1833
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 April 18 23:44 BST (UK) »
Sorry - arrived Nelson NZ on Golconda 28 December 1859 - left UK 3 months earlier

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Re: Henry THOMAS - born Newquay 1833
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 April 18 23:49 BST (UK) »
Is this a possible?

Name    Henry Thomas
Event Type    Census
Event Date    1841
Event Place    Illogan, Cornwall, England
Residence Note    Carnbrea
Gender    Male
Age    10
Age (Original)    10
Birth Year (Estimated)    1831
Birthplace    Cornwall
Registration District    Redruth
Parish    Illogan
County    Cornwall
Page Number    30 Registration Number    HO107 Piece/Folio    142/38
Affiliate Record Type    Household
Henry Thomas       M    35-39    Cornwall
Jane Thomas       F    14    Cornwall
Caroline Thomas       F    12    Cornwall
Henry Thomas       M    10    Cornwall
Elizth Thomas       F    6    Cornwall
Kay Thomas       F    4    Cornwall

and possibly same person in 1851

Name    Henry Thomas
Event Type    Census
Event Date    1851
Event Place    Illogan, Cornwall, England
Registration District    Redruth
Gender    Male
Age    18
Marital Status    Unmarried
Occupation    Copper Miner
Relationship to Head of Household    Son
Birth Year (Estimated)    1833
Birthplace    Illogan, Cornwall
Page Number    44 Registration Number    HO107 Piece/Folio    1915 / 433
Affiliate Record Type    Household
Mary Thomas    Head    F    66    Illogan, Cornwall (Widow)
Elizabeth Thomas    Daughter    F    38    Illogan, Cornwall
Mary Thomas    Daughter    F    32    Illogan, Cornwall
Jane Thomas    Daughter    F    29    Illogan, Cornwall
John Thomas    Son    M    22    Illogan, Cornwall
Richard Thomas    Son    M    20    Illogan, Cornwall
Henry Thomas    Son    M    18    Illogan, Cornwall

I can't find him in 1861


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Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
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Re: Henry THOMAS - born Newquay 1833
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 April 18 23:58 BST (UK) »
not sure - have tried to follow this Henry before and think I found him somewhere else - will have to look into again

Thanks you

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Re: Henry THOMAS - born Newquay 1833
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 April 18 00:02 BST (UK) »
Newquay doesn’t seem to be mentioned on the marriage certificate you have attached  ???

Presumably “Harvey” on the marriage certificate is a mistranscription of Henry?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Henry THOMAS - born Newquay 1833
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 April 18 00:05 BST (UK) »
Some Cornish parish records are available here: http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Henry THOMAS - born Newquay 1833
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 15 April 18 00:31 BST (UK) »
The certificate for marriage, 1862 names him Thomas HARVEY.

The death certificate, 1883, Henry Charles THOMAS, names parents Henry THOMAS and Mary THOMAS formerly -, fathers occupation gardener.
What names do you have for his children.

Nelson Examiner and New Zealand Chronicle 20 Sep 1862 p2
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NENZC18620920.2.7?
........marriage notice.........

Colonist 31 Mar 1883 p3
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/TC18830331.2.7?
.......accidental death of Henry THOMAS......falling tree....

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Re: Henry THOMAS - born Newquay 1833
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 15 April 18 00:35 BST (UK) »
Yes, this is him.  I am trying to trace him back to the UK - heaps of Henry Thomas's but as I follow each one through - I find they are the wrong Henry's.  A massive task when we have no proff of parents names