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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #9 on: Monday 16 April 18 16:26 BST (UK) »

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If Jane was buried on 24th and the death registered on 30th - the vicar/husband have just managed to register within the seven days, thus avoiding a fine. Could the burial date have been altered to arrive at this result - perhaps with advice from the registrar?
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Westward, potentially a cover up then :)
I hope to have attached adult Jane's parish burial record
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.

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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #10 on: Monday 16 April 18 16:31 BST (UK) »
Please let us know when it arrives  :)

Yes, the page number is the same as it is for 4 (5 including the other Jane) other burials in the Hinderwell parish records - all in September 1864.

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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #11 on: Monday 16 April 18 16:33 BST (UK) »
Yes the vicar/clerk has written the age as 1 month then changed it to the mother's age.  So the baby's burial must presumably  be recorded on a nearby page.
Rutter, Sampson, Swinerd, Head, Redman in Kent.  Others in Cheshire, Manchester, Glos/War/Worcs.
RUTTER family and Matilda Sampson's Will:

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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #12 on: Monday 16 April 18 16:42 BST (UK) »
Here are the two entries, consecutive pages in the parish records:

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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #13 on: Monday 16 April 18 16:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks for posting both Bumblebee, saved me a job! The age on the later burial has clearly been altered, maybe the vicar wrote up each month's entries at the end of the month :)
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.

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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #14 on: Monday 16 April 18 17:22 BST (UK) »
I just thought that it was interesting that he wrote up some parts of the register at a different time  :)
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #15 on: Monday 16 April 18 17:28 BST (UK) »
Quote from: cristeen on Monday 16 April 18 16:26 BST (UK)


Westward, potentially a cover up then :)
I hope to have attached adult Jane's parish burial record

Just saving everyone a little money. In my part of the world births had to be registered within 30 days. Back in the day I have some ancestors whose birth dates were altered to comply with this requirement  :) You also have to put date of marriage on birth certificates. One large family had one child before the marriage, so they registered her with her younger sister's date of birth. All very confusing.

Edit: Thanks for the baptism record - interesting to see the change of detail from child to mother

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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #16 on: Monday 16 April 18 18:11 BST (UK) »
Just for the sake of completeness, here are the other documents I have,  the baptism record for baby Jane, the funeral card for adult Jane and her death cert
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.

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Re: 1864 death & burial, dates confusion, suggestions for reasons welcome
« Reply #17 on: Monday 16 April 18 18:14 BST (UK) »
Couldn't get them all on the same post!
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.
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