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Offline tmp48

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John Brady Birth Date: 6 Jun 1881
« on: Wednesday 18 April 18 23:58 BST (UK) »
Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name:   Joannes Brady
[John Brady]
Baptism Age:   0
Event Type:   Baptism
Birth Date:   6 Jun 1881
Baptism Date:   12 Jun 1881
Baptism Place:   Rathmines, Dublin city, Dublin, Ireland
Residence Place:   Charlemont St
Parish Variants:   Rathmines
Diocese:   Dublin
Father:   Michaelis Brady
Mother:   Brigida Conboy

No ‘Image’ to check details
I wanted to see the exact details as I alread have 'my' John Brady's Baptism record and he was born 6 May 1881 in Charlemont Street. Father Michael Brady, Mother Bridget Convoy, which reads CONBOY

I found the Birth Certificate for John Brady  Birth Date: 6 Jun 1881
John Brady born 6th Jun 1881 at Mastersons Cottages, Charlemont Street. Dublin (no mention of Rathmines) Father Michael Brady Mother Bridget Kinsella
I hope this, directly above, helps some one else  in their research.




BRADY...Dublin
CONBOY...Roscommon
CURRY....Dublin
DEVINE...Dublin
McDermott...Dublin
ROONEY...Dublin
POLLARD...Dublin
QUIGLEY...Dublin
LAWLESS...Dublin
SLADE...Dorset
DAVIS...Bristol & Somerset
PERRIS...Somerset
BOARD...Somerset

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Re: John Brady Birth Date: 6 Jun 1881
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 April 18 05:53 BST (UK) »
Rathmines is the parish.
Number 10790
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633747#page/194/mode/1up
On right hand page.

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Re: John Brady Birth Date: 6 Jun 1881
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 April 18 08:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much Sinann.   :)
I looked and looked last night and eventually decided it was in the darkened part and couldn’t be seen. They are difficult registers to read.

I was also confused re the information, tmp48, between Conboy/Convoy and Kinsella.

The name seems to be Conboy according to the records but are you saying that these are two different John Bradys - one with mother Bridget Conboy and one with mother Bridget Kinsella?
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Re: John Brady Birth Date: 6 Jun 1881
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 April 18 11:16 BST (UK) »
Maybe Bridget was widow when she got married.
The birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1881/02817/2033711.pdf
Or as found recently on another family the priest put the mother's mother's maiden name on the baptism.

A check would be needed for a second John Brady, there could be two, and other Brady children and or two Michael Brady marriages to Bridgets.

It's also possible the nurse who registered the birth got Bridget's name wrong.


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Re: John Brady Birth Date: 6 Jun 1881
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 April 18 11:58 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage in 1872 of Michael Brady and Bridget Conboy
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11316/8152459.pdf
She isn't a widow.
It would be reasonable to expect more children before John.

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Re: John Brady Birth Date: 6 Jun 1881
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 April 18 12:27 BST (UK) »
Yes Sinann

Michael BRADY m Brigid CONBOY on Jul 07 1872 in Rathmines LINK
Both were minors
Church record is mistranscribed as CARBERRY LINK

There are birth and baptism records for the following eight children with parents of this name and possibly all the same family. Not all have civil records.
bap. Mar 17 1873 - Mary; St. Paul's Arran Quay
bap. Jan 02 1878 - Elizabeth Ann/Annie Elizabeth; St. Patrick's Belfast
bap. Jan 07 1879 - Agnes (of Belfast); Rathmines
bap. Sep 14 1879 - Daniel (of Ranelagh); Rathmines
bap. Jun 06 1881 - John (of Charlemont Street); Rathmines
bap. Dec 22 1882 - Bridget (of 4 Gordon's Lane); Rathmines
bap. Apr 18 1884 - Martha Joanna (of 4 Gordon's Place); Rathmines
bap. Sep 06 1889 - Michael Charles (of 68 Pleasant Place); Rathmines

I cannot see a marriage between a Michael BRADY & Brigid (and variants) KINSELLA at that time; nor births to this couple that would indicate clearly that there was a second couple of similar names.  It could be a clerical error that occurred.
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: John Brady Birth Date: 6 Jun 1881
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 April 18 13:50 BST (UK) »
Different informants and birth dates but registered on the same day the maiden name of the mother on the birth before John Brady's is also Kinsella. Quite a few births registered that day.

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Re: John Brady Birth Date: 6 Jun 1881
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 April 18 14:01 BST (UK) »
Good spot

When my grandmother's sister went to apply for a widow's pension some years ago she looked for a marraige certificate to find it was registered as if she had married the best man, her brother-in-law!

A tired clerk here maybe......
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: John Brady Birth Date: 6 Jun 1881
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 April 18 16:54 BST (UK) »
All solved - well done  :)

Somehow, I thought the OP was thinking there were two different children because of the discrepancy in the date. If so, I was going to say it is a common occurrence as Baptism was more important than birth registration.  :)
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