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Can a great uncle be refereed to as a paternal ancestor
« on: Thursday 19 April 18 18:39 BST (UK) »
Random question  ;D

Does it make grammatical sense to say that a great great great uncle (on someones fatherline) is a "paternal ancestor"?


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Re: Can a great uncle be refereed to as a paternal ancestor
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 April 18 20:02 BST (UK) »
An ancestor  is a parent , a grandparent, great-grandparent, great-great-grandparent, and so forth...so strictly speaking the brother of an ancestor
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Can a great uncle be refereed to as a paternal ancestor
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 April 18 20:15 BST (UK) »
Ancestors are usually direct line

So for great-uncles etc I would say a "connection"
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Re: Can a great uncle be refereed to as a paternal ancestor
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 April 18 20:56 BST (UK) »
An ancestor  is a parent , a grandparent, great-grandparent, great-great-grandparent, and so forth...so strictly speaking the brother of an ancestor

True enough if you take the animal husbandry bloodline approach to family history.  On the other hand, an uncle or a step parent or even a more distant relative or an in-law might be a very key individual in the financial, professional, emotional or intellectual trajectory of a family.  I consider all of them to be ancestors who had their input, however minor.

Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis


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Re: Can a great uncle be refereed to as a paternal ancestor
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 April 18 21:37 BST (UK) »
An ancestor  is a parent , a grandparent, great-grandparent, great-great-grandparent, and so forth...so strictly speaking the brother of an ancestor

True enough if you take the animal husbandry bloodline approach to family history.  On the other hand, an uncle or a step parent or even a more distant relative or an in-law might be a very key individual in the financial, professional, emotional or intellectual trajectory of a family.  I consider all of them to be ancestors who had their input, however minor.

That was not the question!
Is the brother of a direct ancestor your ancestor? No....so brother of ancestor, indirect or extended family maybe, however "financial, professional, emotional or intellectual trajectory of a family" is about family history research.
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Can a great uncle be refereed to as a paternal ancestor
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 April 18 21:53 BST (UK) »
As I said, if you take a bloodline approach to things.  I just happen to think that people are more than their genes.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Can a great uncle be refereed to as a paternal ancestor
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 April 18 22:16 BST (UK) »
Random question  ;D

Does it make grammatical sense to say that a great great great uncle (on someones fatherline) is a "paternal ancestor"?

I believe the term is "ancestral uncle on the paternal side".

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Re: Can a great uncle be refereed to as a paternal ancestor
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 April 18 23:08 BST (UK) »
I would think it would be easier to say paternal 3xgreat uncle.

Also, I agree wholeheartedly with Erato. Family and kinship are far more than a genetic inheritance.

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Re: Can a great uncle be refereed to as a paternal ancestor
« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 April 18 01:09 BST (UK) »
I agree with Erato and Gadget. I wouldn't take the term "ancestor" as meaning direct line only, but rather anyone who is in my family tree.
 
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