Mary Currie born Irvine around 1835/1841

[chempat]

What I was hoping was that the great-grandson would actually know her birthday, which is possible but unlikely.  Sometimes dates are known because they are the same as a grandchild or other random fact - my son born March 7th, Granny born March 6th, that sort of thing.  Or it might have been written down somewhere. 

Will the 1939 Scotland's register eventually be made fully available, as that will have her birth date which could be April 18th and the wrong year?

[loobylooayr]

I have no idea if there are plans to release the National Identity Register of 1939 online -
https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/national-register

Apparently part of the register is open and you can apply for an extract.

Have you found Jane Currie on the 1881 Census? I can't see her 

Looby

[chempat]

No, not found definitely on 1881.

She married in 1883 at St Quivox and Newton-on-Ayr, living in Whitletts.

[chempat]

Just to add for anyone still interested, that the family in 1871

1871 Dundonald Irvine
Mary Carrie   30  head  muslin sewer  Irvine 
all recorded as son or daughter:
Jane Mccann   9 Bonnet Knitter  Dundonald
Robert Scott   4  Irvine
Mary Scott    4  Irvine
William Scott   2   Irvine
George Scott   1  Irvine

are living at what looks like Cotton Row South Side No 1 Coat??

https://maps.nls.uk/view/74425804#zoom=6&lat=3430&lon=3224&layers=BT


Also the 2 Madden boys, son of Mary Currie/Waugh born Ireland around 1800/1810,  half-brothers to Mary Currie ( born 1841 or before)

1851
Patrick Madder   4    illeg. son  Irvine
John Madder   2   illeg. son Irvine

in 1861
John Madden   9  half-brother Irvine

Patrick possibly dies in June 1863 - no parents on death certificate- in a mining death, and age recorded as 16 or 17

http://www.scottishmining.co.uk/Indexes/1863deaths.html

John Madden, born around 1848 probably goes into the Army, marries 1888 in Lanark, claiming parents as Peter Madden, stevedore, and Mary Madden/Waugh as Mother.
Dies in 1900 and widow states his father was Peter Madden, quay labourer, and his mother was Mary McCracken widow of George Currie labourer.

Added:
Anyone any suggestions as to alternative surname McCracken?

[loobylooayr]

Hi chempat,

Not sure if this helps but  Jane Currie and Samuel Cardie have a baby in March 1882. The child, a boy, is unnamed and dies at 2 days old  (there  is a corresponding death certificate) - imperfect development at birth  Poor wee soul .
The image of the birth record is almost unreadable - another enhancement request to SP  - but, interestingly, it looks like Samuel and Jane ( well Samuel anyway, as he is the informant) are passing themselves off as a married couple.
However this birth , places Jane in Whitletts in early 1882 and - if the pregnancy was full term - possibly mid 1881?  I wonder where she is hiding on the 1881 Census.

Looby

 

[chempat]

Trying to find Jane makes me want a subscription not a pay-per-view for the census, so that I can work my way through all the images trying to see if there is someone that could be her but has been wrongly transcribed or just looks odd.

No luck.

[chempat]

I applied for the 1939 entry for Jane Cardie (which comes as a printed/typed extract with no information on who else is in the household, or the neighbours) and her birth date is given as 28th August 1863.

She could be out with her year of birth, but usually people get the day and month correct, so I am looking for a Jane Currie born in August, probably in 1863.

But I better go and do some gardening and have a think.