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Who is J Williams of Dolegwmucha in the marriage of 1814 to Mary Thomas
« on: Saturday 05 May 18 05:48 BST (UK) »
"MARRIED. At Pencarreg, Carmarthenshire, Mr. J. "Williams, of Dolegwmucha, to Mary, fifth daughter of the Rev. Timothy Thomas, of Maes Issa."
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The above marriage was announced in the North Wales Gazette on 7th April 1814.
Where is Dolegwmucha and who was J Williams?
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Re: Who is J Williams of Dolegwmucha in the marriage of 1814 to Mary Thomas
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 May 18 07:20 BST (UK) »
It's Dolgwm Ucha which is avove Dolfwm Isa near Hafan y Wenol (down a minor road off the main A485 )

http://map.coflein.gov.uk/index.php?action=do_details&cache_name=cGZyZWV0ZXh0LHBlbmNhcnJlZ19zZWFyY2h0eXBlLGFkdmFuY2VkX29yYQ==&numlink=411207#tabs-4

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Re: Who is J Williams of Dolegwmucha in the marriage of 1814 to Mary Thomas
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 May 18 07:37 BST (UK) »
On a notice re the marriage in the Cambrian 2nd April 1814  J Williams is listed as John Williams

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Re: Who is J Williams of Dolegwmucha in the marriage of 1814 to Mary Thomas
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 May 18 07:51 BST (UK) »
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
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Re: Who is J Williams of Dolegwmucha in the marriage of 1814 to Mary Thomas
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 05 May 18 07:53 BST (UK) »
This is an 1888 map showing the area that Sam found
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102178592#zoom=4&lat=2232&lon=3197&layers=BT

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Re: Who is J Williams of Dolegwmucha in the marriage of 1814 to Mary Thomas
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 05 May 18 14:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much everybody. I am in the desert of S California at the moment, so eight hours behind Pencarreg time.
My sister and I visited the area in 2011 and toured St Patrick's church (photo attached).
I shall investigate further to see if I can find the Happy Couple in 1841 and beyond. I now see that my cousin Robert Moseley Bryce Thomas (RMBT) refers to him as John Williams of Penbont with a date of death as 27th April 1852.
Mary William née Thomas died on 9th Sept. 1886 aged 95 years says RMBT.
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Re: Who is J Williams of Dolegwmucha in the marriage of 1814 to Mary Thomas
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 May 18 16:23 BST (UK) »
John and Mary's second daughter Mary was said by RMBT to have been born on 8th May 1816 at somewhere in Llanwenog, Cardiganshire.
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It looks like BLAENHIRBANT but I know we are butchering the spelling. Sorry.
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Any ideas?
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Richard
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Re: Who is J Williams of Dolegwmucha in the marriage of 1814 to Mary Thomas
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 May 18 17:00 BST (UK) »
This looks like it https://maps.nls.uk/view/101608744#zoom=4&lat=3808&lon=2330&layers=BT
BLAEN HIRBANT - ISAF and to the north BLAEN HIRBANT -UCHAF

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Re: Who is J Williams of Dolegwmucha in the marriage of 1814 to Mary Thomas
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 May 18 17:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks Kay. So the spelling was good after all.
What great technology when I can see exactly where it is in detail on the map.
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