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Re: John Crawford 1832-1897
« Reply #18 on: Monday 28 May 18 10:13 BST (UK) »
yes.... Niley is Mary's illegitimate daughter born Lucy in 1861. Father a George Mathieson

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Re: John Crawford 1832-1897
« Reply #19 on: Monday 28 May 18 10:20 BST (UK) »
I can find a Marriage for a James Crawford/Margaret Govan but its 16 July 1858, Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian.

So much too late.

Back later better get some Dinner on!
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Re: John Crawford 1832-1897
« Reply #20 on: Monday 28 May 18 11:23 BST (UK) »
There is a John Crawford born 1835 Glasgow age 26 occupation nailer
Lodging with a Margaret Monaghan age 64 born Ireland  and her family 34,Walkinshaw Street Johnstone Paisley
Might be a possibility on the 1861 ...But no more further with finding the right parent's I'm afraid  ???

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Re: John Crawford 1832-1897
« Reply #21 on: Monday 28 May 18 11:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks to you both.

I saw that to Rosie - is a nailer similar to a slater in terms of occupation? Maybe he started makings nails then moved on to being a slater. A slater uses nail!!


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Re: John Crawford 1832-1897
« Reply #22 on: Monday 28 May 18 11:35 BST (UK) »
found them in 1851

CRAWFORD       John       Head       M       M       50       Nailer (Journeyman)        Ireland - -           
        CRAWFORD       Elizabeth       Wife       M       F       35       House Wife        Ireland - -           
        CRAWFORD       John       Son       U       M       16       Nailer (Apprentice)        Lanarkshire - Glasgow           
        CRAWFORD       Mary       Dau       U       F       14       Servant        Lanarkshire - Glasgow           
        CRAWFORD       Margaret       Dau       U       F       12       At Home (Servant)        Lanarkshire - Glasgow           
        CRAWFORD       Thomas       Son       U       M       11       Errand Boy        Lanarkshire - Glasgow           
 Page: 615/14       CRAWFORD       Peter       Son       U       M       9       At School        Lanarkshire - Glasgow           
        CRAWFORD       Sarah       Dau       -       F       4       At School        Lanarkshire - Glasgow           
        CRAWFORD       Elizabeth       Dau       -       F       1               Lanarkshire - Glasgow

remember what I said in earlier post about parents names on John's death certificate being wrong?

maybe this is them!! but not taking it for granted.

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Re: John Crawford 1832-1897
« Reply #23 on: Monday 28 May 18 13:12 BST (UK) »
John Crawford, 25, Slater, born King, Newton Moven's of Meares
That looks really bizarre. Can you post an extract from the image so we can see if we can make sense of the birthplace?
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Re: John Crawford 1832-1897
« Reply #24 on: Monday 28 May 18 13:15 BST (UK) »
Maybe John b c 1832 was illegitimate? Could he be in an earlier census as John McGovern?
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Re: John Crawford 1832-1897
« Reply #25 on: Monday 28 May 18 13:22 BST (UK) »
good point Forfarian will try this too. Thank you

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Re: John Crawford 1832-1897
« Reply #26 on: Monday 28 May 18 13:38 BST (UK) »
Yes they seem to be in Kilsyth.

he didn't marry. Children John born 1867 and others have a date and place of marriage but I have never found it.
Marriage place always Glasgow

What date and place did it give for the parents marriage ?