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help request nee orr marriage to orr
« on: Sunday 13 May 18 14:03 BST (UK) »
 hello all I do so hope you can help me  my gr gr grandmother  nee Martha anne orr father james  married james peden/pedan 1 jan 1850 aghadowey Londonderry N Ireland   I understand that she had three children from her first marriage  annie mary  William  Samuel
she then married james orr I don't know when or where but I'm told she had a further two children Elizabeth and jean with mr james orr

the daughter Annie mary peden/pedan married Thomas james lamon / lamont  6 june 1902 coleraine reg office  annie and thomas are found 1901 mullnabroan garvagh Londonderry

 I would be more than gratefull for any help at all as I know nothing of  Martha ann's husbands mr peden/pedan or mr orr

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Re: help request nee orr marriage to orr
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 May 18 14:26 BST (UK) »
The 1850 marriage shows her spouse's father.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG6H-GXR

you claim 3 kids from the first marriage, when & where were the kids born?
and same for the second marriage kids, when & where?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Record_Office_of_Northern_Ireland
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Re: help request nee orr marriage to orr
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 May 18 16:34 BST (UK) »
  thank you for the information found,
  I'm sorry but I have no more to go on, other than the 1911 census states that Elizabeth Orr who is listed as a half sister  17yrs is born in Scotland
Annie (lamont nee peden) is listed as 28yrs born Co Derry married 8yrs

 I am going from family information, word of mouth and a very poor next to nothing information wise family tree

any help at all would be more than appreciated

 

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Re: help request nee orr marriage to orr
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 May 18 17:28 BST (UK) »
You presumably know which country/ town they were in in 1911?
Care to share?

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Re: help request nee orr marriage to orr
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 May 18 17:47 BST (UK) »
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Re: help request nee orr marriage to orr
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 May 18 18:12 BST (UK) »
  thank you for the information found,
  I'm sorry but I have no more to go on, other than the 1911 census states that Elizabeth Orr who is listed as a half sister  17yrs is born in Scotland
Annie (lamont nee peden) is listed as 28yrs born Co Derry married 8yrs

 I am going from family information, word of mouth and a very poor next to nothing information wise family tree

any help at all would be more than appreciated

Do you mean that Elizabeth is shown as half sister to Annie Lamont or half sister to Thomas Lamont?

This is odd - I wonder if it is a mistake

The marriage of Annie and Thomas shows Annie’s father as John Malone   ???

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1902/10271/5738001.pdf
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Re: help request nee orr marriage to orr
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 May 18 18:31 BST (UK) »

the daughter Annie mary peden/pedan married Thomas james lamon / lamont  6 june 1902 coleraine reg office  annie and thomas are found 1901 mullnabroan garvagh Londonderry

 I would be more than gratefull for any help at all as I know nothing of  Martha ann's husbands mr peden/pedan or mr orr

The census is 1911 not 1901 - here it is

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Bovagh/Mullinabrone/590654/

Elizabeth shows as half sister and that should be to Thomas but they may mean to Annie though.
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Re: help request nee orr marriage to orr
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 May 18 18:43 BST (UK) »
There is a Lizzie Orr 7 yrs b Scotland in 1901 Drumcroon, Londonderry. She is visiting William Jane Smyth and family.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Drumcroon/Ballyclough/1516357/

The child Alfred Smyth’s birth https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02607/1962579.pdf
Shows mother Jane as formerly Peden.

You would need the birth of Elizabeth.
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Re: help request nee orr marriage to orr
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 13 May 18 18:52 BST (UK) »
Do you have an incline as to which area in Scotland which could narrow things down immensely?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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