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Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives...Pvt Frank Henry Sawyer.
« Reply #9 on: Monday 21 May 18 15:02 BST (UK) »
Oh, wonder if she has moved on  :-[  Try - https://www.cwgc.org/contact-us  and head it to :- UKNA Technical Team.

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Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives...Pvt Frank Henry Sawyer.
« Reply #10 on: Monday 21 May 18 15:05 BST (UK) »
My fault that should have been - mo.russell@cwgc.org

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Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives...Pvt Frank Henry Sawyer.
« Reply #11 on: Monday 21 May 18 15:06 BST (UK) »
Ah! Great. Thanks.

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Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives...Pvt Frank Henry Sawyer.
« Reply #12 on: Monday 21 May 18 21:56 BST (UK) »
I thought I'd take a look and there's quite a few records for the family. I'll start with Frank.

Baptism:
name: Francis Henry Sawyer
baptised: 01 May 1887; St Edmund and St Mary, Ingatestone
father: John Francis, baker
mother: Eliza
abode: Eagle Terrace, Ingatestone


Newspaper items:

Essex Newsman
26 June 1909
Romford, June 24
John Sawyer, a baker of Margaretting, was summoned for that, being the owner of eight pigs, he did cause them to be moved along the highway, at Romford, on June 16. Frank Sawyer, of Margaretting, was summoned for moving the pigs. Supt. Jones, inspector under the Infectious Diseases (Animals) Act said he was compelled to bring these cases in consequence of the Swine Fever regulations, due notification which had been published. John Sawyer was fined 1 and costs, and Frank Sawyer was ordered to pay the costs.


Essex Newsman
04 December 1909
Chelmsford Petty Sessions
This Day
John Parker, a labourer of no fixed abode, was charged with stealing two jackets and a silk handkerchief, value 6s 6d, of Frank Henry Sawyer, a baker, of Margaretting.


Chelmsford Chronicle
26 January 1912
Wm J Malyon, an engine driver, of Ingatestone, was charged with being drunk and disorderly at Margaretting.

Frank Henry Sawyer, a baker, and Alf Brown, a labourer, gave evidence.


Chelmsford Chronicle
27 April 1917
Personal War Notes
Pt F J Ottley, Essex, Regt., formerly Yeomanry, of the Globe Inn, Chelmsford, writes that he is one of the lucky ones after a rough time. His company was making an attack, and found the Huns were doing the same thing, only with five times the strength, and his company had to give way, suffering heavy causalities in the missing. He says Frank Sawyer, a Margaretting baker, was wounded, and R A Gibbons, a traveller for Messrs. Ridley and Son, of Chelmsford, a member of the Chelmsford Church Institute, and Douglas Newman, of Chelmsford, were among the missing, but as fresh troops were making an attack it was hope they might be saved.


Chelmsford Chronicle
14 March 1919
Margaretting
Death of Mr F H Sawyer. After nearly two years of suffering, Lc Cpl Frank Henry Sawyer made the great sacrifice on March 6th. Deceased joined the Essex Yeomanry in May, 1916, and went to France in the following December. He was wounded at the battle of Arras in April, 1917, and taken to Fort Pitt Hospital, Chatham, where he passed away. He underwent several operations, and hopes were entertained that his fine constitution would pull him through. Last Christmas he was brought home, but after two days' stay the wound re-opened, and he was taken back to Chatham. Deceased, who was only 31 years of age, and unmarried, was of a sunny disposition and universally liked in the village. Much sympathy has been shown to his widowed mother, whose elder son, John, joined the Suffolk Regt., lost his left hand in France. The funeral took place on Tuesday at St Margaret's Church, amid every manifestation of sympathy. The Rev. W J Pressey officiated, in the presence of a large gathering. The mourners were: Mrs Sawyer, mother; John and Percy, brothers; Mr and Mrs Orton, sister and brother-in-law; Mr and Mrs John King, uncle and aunt; Mr Will Sawyer, uncle; Mrs Ketley, aunt; Mr R Gillman, Mr F Bedlow, and Mrs Cobb. Others present included Mr and Mrs Learmouth, Mr R M Straight, Mrs Sheldrick, Mr Clift, Mr H Steven, Mr Arthur Brown (late Essex Regt.), Mr C Read, Mr and Mrs Clayden, Mrs Reeves, the Misses Reeve, Mrs Jennings, Miss Jennings, Mrs C Bartrop, Mrs Farrow, Mr P C Brown, Mr F H Ainsworth, Mr H Hart, Miss Tolfts, Mr Jethro, and John Ottley, the latter being with the deceased in the action where he was wounded. There were some thirty beautiful floral tributes from relatives and friends, and the following wreaths from the Chatham Hospital:- "In loving memory, from his ;old sister' and friend, V A Thomas; "In fond remembrance of dear old Sawyer, from Matron, Miss McArthur, Ward 23, Staff, Fort Pitt, Chatham"; "A last token of lover to dear old Sawyer from the "Corner Boys," Fort Pitt, Chatham."
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Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives...Pvt Frank Henry Sawyer.
« Reply #13 on: Monday 21 May 18 22:04 BST (UK) »
It looks like Frank's parents are John Francis Sawyer and Eliza King. It looks like they married in 1886 but I haven't yet found their marriage record.

GRO BMD references:

1886 Q4  Marriage: John Francis Sawyer & Eliza King; Chelmsford; 4a; 532
1911 Q3  Death: John F Sawyer; age 47 (born c1864); Chelmsford; 4a; 709
1946 Q2  Death: Eliza Sawyer; age 83 (born c1863); Chelmsford; 4a; 585

1887 Q2  Birth: Frank Henry Sawyer (mmn: King); Chelmsford; 4a; 411
1888 Q3  Birth: Gertrude Mary Sawyer (mmn: King); Chelmsford; 4a; 394
1890 Q1  Birth: John Francis Sawyer (mmn: King); Chelmsford; 4a; 452
1892 Q4  Birth: Percy William Sawyer (mmn: King); Chelmsford; 4a; 449
1895 Q2  Birth: Olive Kate Sawyer (mmn: King); Chelmsford; 4a; 508

Baptisms - St Edmund and St Mary, Ingatestone
01 May 1887 - Francis Henry Sawyer; John Francis & Eliza; of Eagle Terrace, Ingatestone; baker

Baptisms - St Margaret, Margretting
27 Aug 1888 - Gertrude Mary Sawyer; John Francis & Eliza; of Margretting; baker
30 Mar 1890 - John Francis Sawyer; John & Eliza; of Margretting; baker
29 Jan 1893 - Percy William Sawyer; John & Eliza; of Margretting; baker

I haven't (yet) found a baptism for Olive.

Administration:
Sawyer, John Francis
of Margretting Essex
died 20 September 1911
Administration London 28 November to Eliza Sawyer widow
Effects 956 5s
Former grant October 1911 revoked

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Sawyer&yearOfDeath=1911&page=2#calendar


Administration:
Sawyer, Eliza
of West View Chignal-road Chelmsford
widow died 16 April 1946
Administration London 11 July to Percy William Sawyer licensed victualler
Effects 521 19s 9d

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Sawyer&yearOfDeath=1946&page=2#calendar


Newspaper items:

Chelmsford Chronicle
22 September 1911
A Margaretting baker Found Hanged
Jury's Expression of Opinion
Yesterday at the Black Bull Inn, Margaretting, an inquest was held before Mr C. E. Lewis, coroner,
on John Francis Sawyer, 47, a baker, who was found hanged dead in his back garden on Wednesday
morning.


The article notes he'd had 3 accidents in the past year which had affected his head. Evidence given by his widow, his son Frank and Fred Bedlow, a baker. It was put to his widow and Frank that had John been taken better care of then he may not have hung himself. There were accusations that John often drank heavily and often assaulted Eliza and one of their daughters.


EDIT:

Chelmsford Chronicle
26 April 1946
Margaretting
Former Baker
Mrs E Sawyer, of West View, Chignal Road, Chelmsford, late of The Bakery, Margaretting, passed away at the age of 83. She had lived at Chignal Road for 10 years on her retirement after 50 years of business at Margaretting, where she as held in highest regard. She was of a very generous nature. Two sons and two daughters survive. Her eldest son Frank gave his life in the 1914-1918 War, serving in the the Essex Yeomanry. The funeral took place on Saturday at Margaretting, the Vicar, the Rev E M Behr, officiating, Mourners were: J F and P W Sawyer, sons; Mrs L C Orton, Mrs O Learmonth, daughters; Mr F Bedlow (who has been associated with the family for ?0 years). Mr L C Orton, son-in-law; Messrs J L Orton, J H Sawyer, F Sawyer, grandsons; Miss Peggy Learmonth, granddaughter; Mr H King (Ingatestone), brother. Mrs A Gilman, Mrs T Webb, nieces; Miss Christine Teager, grandniece; Mrs Sargent, Mrs A Francis, Mrs J H Sawyer, grand-daughter-in-law. Others present were: Mrs Southgate, Miss M Clift, Miss C Claydon, Mrs Gentry, Mr W Britton, Mr J Hudgell, Mrs Colbran. Beautiful floral tributes were received from John, Jess, and family, Gert and Len, Hilda and Percy; Olive and Peggy; Marjorie and Jack; John, Stephen, and Marcia; Fred Bedlow, Eva and John; Reg Plummer; Braddy Lockett; R V Driver, Mrs B E Smithers, Mr and Mrs Taylor; Mr and Mrs Sargent and family; Mrs and the Misses Claydon; the Misses Clift; Mrs Gillman; Mrs Bedlow and Gladys; Mr Harry King and family; Mr and Mrs Warder; Mr and Mrs Francis.

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Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives...Pvt Frank Henry Sawyer.
« Reply #14 on: Monday 21 May 18 22:16 BST (UK) »
Gertrude Mary Sawyer, sister of Frank:

GRO BMD references:

1884 Q1  Birth: Leonard Charles Orton (mmn: Hewett); Poplar; 01c; 686    
1888 Q3  Birth: Gertrude Mary Sawyer (mmn: King); Chelmsford; 4a ;394
1912 Q4  Marriage: Leonard C Orton & Gertrude M Sawyer; Rochford; 4a ;1377
1960 Q3  Death: Leonard C Orton; age 76 (born c1884); Chelmsford; 4a ;391
1984 Q1  Death: Gertrude Mary Orton; 14 Aug 1888; Chelmsford; 9; 1991

1913 Q4  Birth: John Leonard Orton (mmn: Sawyer); Chelmsford; 4a ;1294

Probate:
Orton, Leonard Charles
of Elnhurst Maldon Road Margretting near Chemlsford
died 31 August 1960 at Baddow Road Hospital Chelmsford
Probate London 3 October to Gertrude Mary Orton widow
Effects 2931 5s 2d

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Orton&yearOfDeath=1960&page=2#calendar

No probate record found for Gertrude


Chelmsford Chronicle
14 July 1905
A Double Wedding
At St Mary's Church, Broomfield, on the Wednesday, there took place the marriage of Mr Arthur Henry Goodchild, of Cambridge, to Florence Ellen Ketley, and of Mr Thomas Morley Howard, of Grays, to Kate Elizabeth Ketley, daughters of Mr Charles Ketley, of Broomfield, coachman to Mr H C Wells.

The bridesmaids were Misses Annie, Lina, and Alice Ketley, sisters of the brides, and Miss Gertrude Sawyer, cousin.

EDIT:
It looks like Gertrude and Leonard's son, John Leonard, died in 1994 and left a will.

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Orton&yearOfDeath=1994&page=3#calendar
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Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives...Pvt Frank Henry Sawyer.
« Reply #15 on: Monday 21 May 18 22:23 BST (UK) »
John Francis Sawyer, brother of Frank:

GRO BMD references:

1890 Q1  Birth: John Francis Sawyer (mmn: King); Chelmsford; 4a; 452
1913 Q2  Marriage: John F Sawyer & Jessie Franklin; Woodbridge; 4a; 1787
1967 Q1  Death: Jessie Sawyer; age 78 (born c1889); Deben; 4b; 943
1971 Q3  Death: John Francis Sawyer; 21 Jan 1890; Ipswich; 4b; 247

Probate:
Sawyer, John Francis
of Cloncurrey Grange Rd Felixstow Suffolk
died 27 September 1971
Probate Ipswich 22 December
2161

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Sawyer&yearOfDeath=1971&page=2#calendar

No probate found for Jessie.


I think this death is a better match than the one Sandra posted, and the birth date tallies with other 'certain' records, that we can't mention. The death in Aylesbury 1972 Q4 is also for a John Henry Sawyer.
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Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives...Pvt Frank Henry Sawyer.
« Reply #16 on: Monday 21 May 18 22:28 BST (UK) »
Percy William Sawyer, brother of Frank:

GRO BMD references:

1892 Q4  Birth: Percy William Sawyer (mmn: King); Chelmsford; 4a; 449
1936 Q2  Marriage: Percy W Sawyer & Hilda M Allday; Chemlsford; 4a; 1944
1965 Q1  Death: Percy W Sawyer; age 72 (born c1893); Colchester; 4a; 727
1984 Q1  Death: Hilda May Sawyer; 03 May 1893; Chemlsford; 9; 1914

Probate:
Sawyer, Percy William
of 38 The Drive Broomfield Road Chelmsford
died 11 January 1965 at Severalls Hospital Colchester
Probate London 11 March to Hilda May Sawyer widow
3061

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Sawyer&yearOfDeath=1965&page=2#calendar


Probate:
Sawyer, Hilda May
of 38 The Drive Broomfield Road Chelmsford
died 24 February 1984
Probate Ipswich 25 April
61522
8451505058F

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Sawyer&yearOfDeath=1984&page=2#calendar


Like Sandra I couldn't find any children for Percy and Hilda but assuming the marriage and deaths are correct then they would have both been in their 40s. I can't find a possible birth for Hilda though so could she have been married previously and were there any children? The wills may have some clues.

I haven't yet find the marriage in the Essex records but I'll continue looking.
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Re: CWGC Appeal for relatives...Pvt Frank Henry Sawyer.
« Reply #17 on: Monday 21 May 18 22:32 BST (UK) »
Olive Kate Sawyer, sister of Frank:

GRO BMD references:

1895 Q2  Birth: Olive Kate Sawyer (mmn: King); Chelmsford; 4a; 508
1913 Q4  Marriage: James W Learmonth & Olive K Sawyer; Chelmsford; 4a; 1183
1980 Q4  Death: Olive Kate Learmonth; 30 Apr 1895; Bury St Ed; 10; 2377

Probate:
Learmonth, Olive Kate
of Little Manor 89 High St Lakenheath Suffolk
died 20 December 1980
Probate Ipswich 24 April
9654
811004389B

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Learmonth&yearOfDeath=1981#calendar


I couldn't find any children for Olive and James but there seems to be some variation in the name Learmonth. A certain record has a possible daughter/relation.

As before, I haven't found the marriage record but I'll continue looking.

EDIT:
This could be a red herring but...

Essex Newsman
21 October 1939
Great Bentley Wedding
At Great Bentley Methodist Church on Saturday, Mr Hugh Douglas Gibb, only son of Mr Lewis P? Gibb, of Holm Croft, West Mersea, was married to Miss Margaret Helen (Peggy) Learmonth youngest daughter of the late Mr James Learmonth and of Mrs Learmonth, of Colivins Thorington. Given away by her brother-in-law, Mr Alex Mitchell, the bride wore a classic gown of white with gold embroideries; her veil, of Brussels lace, was ornamented with gold leaves and orange blossom. She carried a sheaf of lilies. She was attended by her niece, D**** Sorrell, wearing a picture frock of blue georgette, with bandeau, and carrying a posy of anemones. Mr John Kent was best man. The Rev W S Liddle officiated, and Mrs A Dowman was at the organ.

EDIT:
Another Great Bentley marriage, seems related.

Chelmsford Chronicle
22 April 1932
Gt Bentley Wedding

Wedding of Mr William Morton Balch, elder son of of Mr and Mrs F W Balch, Quinneys, Wickham Bishops, to Miss Mary Weir Learmonth, second daughter of Mr and Mrs James Learmonth, The Wick, Great Bentley, took place at the Wesleyan Church, Great Bentley on Monday.

The article goes on to say the brides father is a well known and extensive farmer to came to England from West Scotland 35 years ago.

Is the father James Learmonth this one in 1911?
1911 Census - Wivenhoe
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC/1911/RG14/10334/0361/4

And could he be this one? If so, was the same James that married Olive Sawyer?

GRO BMD references:
1960 Q2 Death: James W Learmonth; age 76 (born c1884); Southend on Sea; 4a; 713

Probate:
Learmonth, James Waddell
of 169 Kensington Road Southend-on-Sea Essex
died 22 April 1960 at the General Hospital Southend-on-Sea
Probate London 5 July to Westminster Bank Limited
Effects 3494 10s 10d

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Learmonth&yearOfDeath=1960#calendar

EDIT:
And another James Learmonth, who could be the husband of Olive. I can't see an obvious death for this one though. I'm confused, may be someone else can unpick this lot.

Probate:
Learmonth, James
of Wick Farm St Osylth Essex
died 3 October 1932
Probate Ipswich 4 March to Mary Weir Balch (wife of William Morton Blach) and Alexander Wilson Mitchell farmer
Effects 1755 5s

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Learmonth&yearOfDeath=1933#calendar

EDIT:
Could be another red herring but...

Chelmsford Chronicle
31 August 1928
Colchester Tragedy
Death After Giving Warning

Article about the death of Henry Philip Kennedy who died after being hit by a car driven by Robert Knight Hepburn, an Enfield chemist. The passenger in the car was a Miss Olive Learmonth of Margaretting.
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