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Re: Possible parents of Thomas Fouke of Codnor
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 30 May 18 14:12 BST (UK) »
Correction- The Fowke ancestry traced through more than 300 lines, going back 5-15 generations prior to 1600, referred to in the previous post, is in the back of "The Mitchells of Kentucky" (1924), by Gerald Fowke, and there appear to be copies of this manuscript available. The copied book is about two inches thick, and is handwritten. Would very much appreciate it if anyone can locate these Fowke family charts.

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Re: Possible parents of Thomas Fouke of Codnor
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 30 May 18 21:26 BST (UK) »
    If my Thomas Fouke of Codnor is the same as Thomas Fowke, substitute churchwarden of the Church of St. Lawrence, representing Codnor and Loscoe, than he could very well have been a small independent landowner there. I have to read and study in order to learn this, but a native on RootsChat probably picks this up right away, and I appreciate the help people are giving me to try to make family connections in this period of time, several centuries ago.

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Re: Possible parents of Thomas Fouke of Codnor
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 02 June 18 22:03 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone,

      To make it easy for all of you good people who are reading this thread, go to reply #1 by philipsearching and click on his Family Search link there. On page 1, fourth name from the bottom, you can click on the family tree of Thomas Fowke, born about 1570 of Enborne, Berkshire, parents Thomas Fowke and Elizabeth. THAT is the connection I would make to the Staffordshire Fowke family IF he is my Thomas Fouke of Codnor. Thank You to everyone viewing this, and good luck!


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Re: Possible parents of Thomas Fouke of Codnor
« Reply #12 on: Monday 04 June 18 02:29 BST (UK) »
On another site, Designer Jeans has found "burial Ana wife of Thomas Fouke 8/8/1616 St. Lawrence, Heanor". Thomas Fouke of Codnor married Dorothy Cham in this very same church less than three months later, on October 30, 1616. Could Dorothy Cham have been the second wife of Thomas Fouke of Codnor, OR could Thomas and Ana Fouke have been his parents?

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Re: Possible parents of Thomas Fouke of Codnor
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 17 June 18 04:21 BST (UK) »
    According to the "Pennsylvania Magazine of History, Vol. II, p. 207", the family Bible of Thomas Fowke/Foulke (c1624-1714, son of Thomas and Dorothy Fouke), an old black-letter folio, was brought by him to Burlington County, New Jersey, from Holmgate, North Wingfield, Derbyshire, in 1677. It's a reprint of the 1541 Cranmer edition, imprinted at London on Dec. 29, 1549. This Bible is said to have been buried in the ground during the persecution of the adherents of the Reformed Church, during the reign of Philip and Mary (1554-1558), and has numerous marginal notes showing the peculiarities of the 16th century penmanship. Scattered throughout the Old Testament are the signature of Richard Smallwood and Francis Berdesly, which evidently belong to the same period as the notes, and they would be living at the same time as the great-grandparents of the above Thomas (c1624-1714) of Holmgate, if a connection could be made from him to them.

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Re: Possible parents of Thomas Fouke of Codnor
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 21 June 18 19:30 BST (UK) »
On the "Wirksworth Parish Records 1600-1900" site, under "Wills, Probates, and Inventories", Designer Jeans has found

SURNAME   First name   Location           Will                Inventory        Probate          Comments 
Fowke        Ralph          Ashleyhay        08Apr1590     06Dec1590     10Dec1590     (Foucke in will)
Fowke        Roger         Alderwasley      25May1573    01Aug1573     18Sept1573

This may be just a coincidence, of course, but Roger is a very frequent personal name in the Staffordshire Fowke family, as shown in the Surnames section of the "Fooks and Fowke Family Genealogy" site, pp.30-31.

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Re: Possible parents of Thomas Fouke of Codnor
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 08 December 18 00:45 GMT (UK) »
    Last week, a fellow Foulke researcher found the William Ffolk and Ellen Giorlas mentioned as the possible parents of Thomas of Codnor. They are in the "Heraldic visitations of Wales and part of the Marches; between the years 1586 and 1613, under the authority of Clarencieux and Norroy, two Kings at arms" by Lewys Dwnn, Vol. 1, page 87. The Ffolk pedigree at the bottom of the page shows them as the uncle and aunt of a Tomas Ffolk 1591, however, not as his parents. I do not know how those earlier Foulke researchers connected Thomas of Codnor to this Ffolk family of South Wales, who originally lived in Haverfordwest, the heart of "Little England beyond Wales", which was a Norman colony there.  Since Folk was a Norman name, this family probably originally came during the Norman invasions from 1093 on in that vicinity. More research and verification needs to be done to verify these claims.