Author Topic: John James DEARLOVE  (Read 778 times)

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Re: John James DEARLOVE
« Reply #9 on: Monday 28 May 18 12:17 BST (UK) »
As far as I know after 7 years you could remarry if deserted/spouse presumed dead etc.
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Re: John James DEARLOVE
« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 May 18 13:22 BST (UK) »
Some Tasmanian clergy ignored the law and would refuse to marry convicts that they knew or suspected were already married.

A couple of pages about it, including a few examples, here
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article233096797

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Re: John James DEARLOVE
« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 May 18 15:36 BST (UK) »
This all very useful, until a few days ago I never even knew that he had been transported. I suppose the next thing I need to find out is when and where he died. I am assuming that he never returned to England.

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Re: John James DEARLOVE
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 09 December 18 22:56 GMT (UK) »
As a clue to help...on what happened to him. My also ancestor also arrived on the Maria Sommes....it appears many of those younger convicts were sent to Maria Island for a period.

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Re: John James DEARLOVE
« Reply #13 on: Friday 28 December 18 21:14 GMT (UK) »
As far as I can see, John James Dearlove was given a conditional discharge on 20 June 1853. Problem is I have no idea what happened to him after that. I am assuming that he stayed in Australia, the cost of a return trip to England probably being beyond his means.

Ay ideas? Any help gratefully received.

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Re: John James DEARLOVE
« Reply #14 on: Friday 28 December 18 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Conditional Discharge or Conditional Pardon ? -usually meant "on the condition to never to return to England". Review the Passenger lists of the steamers leaving VDL...for Port Phillip in 1853.
If he was looking for a new start...leaving VDL was a option....I also note there is a advert. notice in the Argus (Vict. Trove) 26/3/1892..which refers to a James Dearlove killed in the Maori war ?...possibly a VDL or Vict Volunteer ?... anyway maybe worth looking at.

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Re: John James DEARLOVE
« Reply #15 on: Friday 28 December 18 23:08 GMT (UK) »
Many convicts who were discharged from Tasmania at this time headed to Victoria for the Gold Rush which started in 1851. (ref Convicts to Diggers i.e. AIF project) Returning to England wasn't an option as stated.
Have checked 3 versions of Vic BDM ( Ancestry not complete) but nothing there.
Have checked NZ records which is a possiblility but nothing there.
Have you considered trying to find if John and wife had chn and try to trace him that way.
Or he changed his name which was not uncommon.
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Re: John James DEARLOVE
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 29 December 18 01:24 GMT (UK) »
Conditional Discharge or Conditional Pardon ? -usually meant "on the condition to never to return to England". Review the Passenger lists of the steamers leaving VDL...for Port Phillip in 1853.
If he was looking for a new start...leaving VDL was a option....I also note there is a advert. notice in the Argus (Vict. Trove) 26/3/1892..which refers to a James Dearlove killed in the Maori war ?...possibly a VDL or Vict Volunteer ?... anyway maybe worth looking at.

"Recommended for Conditional Pardon" 1852
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65580596

Also, I think the Sergeant DEARLOVE who was wounded and died in the Maori wars in NZ was Charles DEARLOVE. Some articles identifying him (I'm assuming the same man who has been promoted, though I may be wrong!)

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n77/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n76/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n78/

Modified to add:
my mistake, there is also a James DEARLOVE  :-[