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Re: William H Mansell Birth or Marriage certificate?
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 30 May 18 18:28 BST (UK) »
That is where I am going tomorrow that's where Mabel and William were living.

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Re: William H Mansell Birth or Marriage certificate?
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 30 May 18 18:45 BST (UK) »
The William in Willesden I have had in my notes as well I have the 1939 record.

He married Eliza Bush in 1915 in Willesden their son William H was also born in Willesden. If that birth cert. says born 19/6/1891 that will be my William.

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Re: William H Mansell Birth or Marriage certificate?
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 30 May 18 18:50 BST (UK) »
William died in 1963 aged 71. Eliza in 1953 aged 66.
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« Reply #21 on: Thursday 31 May 18 08:11 BST (UK) »
So Jon I do believe now that William is more than likely the Martley one because of the name of his first son and father. Mothers name Agnes Pritchard. Mable Alice Morley mothers name Annie M Pritchard could be a connection there as well. So the Marriage certificate will be the wrong one for me. The birth certificate is likely to say birth 19/6/1891 which will mean its the William from Willesden.

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Re: William H Mansell Birth or Marriage certificate?
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 31 May 18 09:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Alan
I do hope that the date on the birth certificate for your William Henry will match the chap in Willesden. It's a great pity that the marriage to Eliza Bush in 1915 isn't online.
I'm sure that the birth certificate will help in any case, let us know how you get on with it!
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday 31 May 18 17:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks John.
I will let you know as soon as I have it.
I wont need to buy the Marriage certificate if the birth matches. I am surprised the PDF hasn't been mailed to me yet, I would have thought it wouldn't take more than two days.

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Re: William H Mansell Birth or Marriage certificate?
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 05 June 18 13:49 BST (UK) »
 :) :) :) :) :) :)

Hello John and Kay.

I have the birth certificate and it does match the William in Willesden.

That means When the Marriage Certificate gets here it will be the wrong one but I can now put William in my tree marrying Eliza Bush and they have that son William. I can also write in my book their details.

The other William had quite a large family off spring so at least I can delete all those.

I will have to search and see if William and Eliza had any more children besides William.

I don't suppose I will be able to trace who he married or if there are any children.

Thank you for your interest and help.

Alan
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Re: William H Mansell Birth or Marriage certificate?
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 21:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Alan
Thanks for letting us know. At least you have now found the right William in 39. A policeman if I remember rightly! Good luck.
John

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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 21:21 BST (UK) »
That's ok John thank you I have just put a post on the London site. I am trying to find Eliza Bush's parents. Looks like I might have to buy that other cert. The other is not here yet.

Alan
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Oxfordshire-         Green. Hawkins
Leicestershire-      Kirby. Gee
North Shields-      Middlemiss, Haines, Faircloth