Nathan's in America

[lbzh12]

It can't be that 1910 Census record as their eldest daughter was born in 1899, so the oldest child should be at most 11 years old in 1910. Also there are 2 boys listed and 1 girl in the census record and there should be 3 girls as per my family knowledge.

[Erato]

Okay.  I don't know why he can't be found on the census, but he was listed in the 1910 Chicago city directory.  I don't see him there in 1911 unless he changed his address and profession.

https://chicagoancestors.org/sites/default/files/downloads/1910n.pdf
https://archive.org/details/lakesideannualdi1911unse

[philipsearching]

It can't be that 1910 Census record as their eldest daughter was born in 1899, so the oldest child should be at most 11 years old in 1910. Also there are 2 boys listed and 1 girl in the census record and there should be 3 girls as per my family knowledge.

With the number of innocent errors (and occasional blatant lies!) by my ancestors I am rather wary of family knowledge unless there is supporting evidence.

Could we re-state what is proved by documents (BMDs, census, immigration or whatever)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T4-GSM3-5?i=556&cc=1368704
SS AQUITAINE from Havre to New York, arrived 31st May 1902
Moritz NATHAN age 37, married, labourer, can read/write, Rumanian, last in Bucharest (heading to cousin SCHERA in Philadelphia)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-916B-9CK3?i=54&wc=4FMB-7JZ%3A1600272369&cc=1368704
SS Statendam from Rotterdam arrived New York 8 Sep 1903
Charlotte NATHAN, age 29, married, housework, can't read/write, Rumanian, last in Bucharest, (heading to M NATHAN, 204 W Court Street, Cincinatti)
Anna NATHAN, 4, Rumanian, last in Varzawi(?)
Cilla NATHAN, 1 1/2, Rumanian, last in Varzawi(?)

For the 1910 Chicago census to fit:
Moritz - fits quite well
Charlotte - name transposed for Anna.  Age 9 years off.
Anna - name transposed for Kalie (Charlotte?) Age 3 years off.
Cilla - name written as Sarah.  Age 3 years off.
Jacob - does not fit.
Regretfully (because it is so tempting) I would discount it.

Ibzh12 - is the third daughter "Beby"?  Do you have any official documentation for her?

Philip

[oldohiohome]

Here is the 1900 and 1910 census for 1008  North 2nd St, Philadelphia. and for 1010 North 2nd in 1900:


link to 1900
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-68LW-Q3V?i=4&wc=9B7H-GPP%3A1030550501%2C1036056801%2C1036157101&cc=1325221

1900 Census
1008 North 2nd St, Philadelphia
Nathan Goldberg and family, born June 1844, born in Hungary, parents also, arrived 1892, shoemaker

1010 North 2nd St, Philadelphia
Max Schwarter, born May 6, 1872, born in Russia, parents also, vendor, arrived 1895
Ida, wife, Aug 27, 1874, born in Russia, parents also, arrived 1895
Fannie, daughter, April 16, 1896, born in Pennsylvania


link to 1910
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RVY-SZT?i=55&wc=QZZ4-DHQ%3A133638001%2C143194401%2C143305901%2C1589091921&cc=1727033

1910 Census
1008 North 2nd St, Philadelphia
Rosie Schwerety, servant, 20, single, born in Hungary, parents also, spoke Magyar, but arrived 1910 [partly unreadable]

in household of Louis and Sarah Grossman, 32, and 29, both born in Russia, parents also, he arrived 1896, she in 1892, spoke Yiddish, his occupation: shoe merchant

[Erato]

Well, 1503 W 13th Street is in the Chicago 11th Ward which is covered by Enumeration Districts 550, 551 and 555.  I have looked through the whole lot and it should be on image 37 or 38 of ED 555.  But, damnit, it's not there.  So maybe the enumerator missed that dwelling and so failed to record Morris Nathan and family.

[lbzh12]

Thanks everyone for all your research.
I am wondering if someone is listed in the directory as in Morris' case, are they listing their home address or work address or could it be either depending on the type of listing?
Also what resource do you use to tie an address to an actual census listing?

[oldohiohome]

Thanks everyone for all your research.
I am wondering if someone is listed in the directory as in Morris' case, are they listing their home address or work address or could it be either depending on the type of listing?
Also what resource do you use to tie an address to an actual census listing?

to find the Enumeration District (ED) for an address, start at stevemorse.org. Look for    Unified 1880-1950 Census ED Finder. At the top of the page select the year you want, and start filling in the blanks to narrow down the ED to one or two. Links to Google maps to get the cross streets, which helps.

[Erato]

In the directory listing "h 1503 W 13th," the 'h' stands for home.