Lawes - Annie Eliza from Basingstoke Hampshire UK

[TracyRosina]

Hi. I'm having problems finding a birth certificate for my great great grandma Annie Eliza Lawes. She was the first of 12 children to Stephen Lawes and Susan Betts. She was christened aged approx 2 with her sister. We can find the birth certificates for the 11 other children. On the 1939 census Annie gave her date of birth as 20 December 1872. We found a birth certificate for an Eliza Lawes on this date who was born in a Basingstoke workhouse but that gives her mothers name as Eliza. Any help gratefully received. Thank you

[chempat]

When did her parents marry, and have you looked for her under Betts?

[Girl Guide]

Hmm, interesting - can't find any Lawes/Betts marriage. 

[chempat]

Yes.

Are they from the travelling community?

(Think it is sometimes Laws)

[Girl Guide]

Might be.  1881 & 1891 Stephen is a general labourer, 1901 has him as a pedlar.  Haven't strayed out of Hampshire so far.  I'll just see if I can locate them in 1911.

[Girl Guide]

Susan is a widow in the 1911.  This looks to be Stephen's death registration:-

Deaths Mar 1908   
LAWES    Stephen    58    Kingsclere    2c   168

According to census records Stephen was born 1846/47 so the age is incorrect, but Susan is living in the Kingsclere district in 1911 so probably the right death.

[TracyRosina]

Hi no I haven’t been able to find their marriage certificate

[TracyRosina]

Are they from the travelling community?

(Think it is sometimes Laws)
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Not sure

[TracyRosina]

Susan is a widow in the 1911.  This looks to be Stephen's death registration:-

Deaths Mar 1908   
LAWES    Stephen    58    Kingsclere    2c   168

There is a rumour that Annie was illegitimate. But if she was Susan’s before marriage I assume there should be a birth certificate somewhere. If the Eliza born in the workhouse is my Annie that certificate stayed her mum was Eliza so why would Stephen and Susan bring her up?  Haven’t been able to find a sister of Susan called Eliza?  Thank you for your time

According to census records Stephen was born 1846/47 so the age is incorrect, but Susan is living in the Kingsclere district in 1911 so probably the right death.
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