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Jane Palfreyman birth c1861
« on: Saturday 02 June 18 20:35 BST (UK) »
Iím hoping someone can help me solve this mystery!

Jane Palfreyman (also seen as Palfermone)
Born c 1861

She has her place of birth on census listed as Cornwall.
1911 census she has it as ďresident bodminland CornwallĒ and her fathers birthplace as Durham.

She married John A Hudson. In 1881, portsea Hampshire, and they lived in the Channel Islands.

Thatís all I know, and would really like to crack this but of my great nans tree.
Siddons/Seddon(s)~Leicestershire, Dorset
Lewis~Dorset
Chard~Dorset
Hunt~Dorset
Ironside(s)~Durham, Dorset
Ferrett~Kent/Middlesex, Dorset
Porter~Somerset, Dorset
Moxom/Moxam/Moxham~Wiltshire, Dorset
Lovell~Dorset
Soper~Dorset

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Re: Jane Palfreyman birth 1961
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 June 18 20:41 BST (UK) »
Please can you be a bit more specific about her entries in all the post-marriage censuses (1891, 1901, 1911 and possibly also 1881 depending on the precise marriage date) and where in the Channel Islands they were?

If the mystery is the identity of her parents, have you considered ordering the 1881 marriage certificate from the GRO, for paternal & witness details?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Jane Palfreyman birth 1961
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 June 18 20:45 BST (UK) »
I see that the marriage was late in 1881:

John Andrew Hudson
Jane Palferymane

Dec qtr 1881 Portsea 2b 976
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Jane Palfreyman birth 1961
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 June 18 20:57 BST (UK) »
I see that the marriage was late in 1881:

John Andrew Hudson
Jane Palferymane

Dec qtr 1881 Portsea 2b 976

Yes thatís the marriage.

I canít find Jane on 1861/1871/1881 censusí

1891 -

Jane Hudson
Birth abt 1860
Cornwall, England.

Residence- RESIDENCE LOCATION
St Peter Port, Guernsey, Channel Islands
CHILDREN
■   Philip Hudson
■   Louisa Hudson
■   John Hudson
■   Arthur Hudson
■   George Hudson
HUSBAND
■   John Hudson



1901-
Jane Hudson
Birth abt 1861
England

Residence -
St Peter Port, Guernsey, Channel Islands

CHILDREN
■   Charles Hudson
■   John R Hudson
■   Louise G Hudson
■   Arthur E Hudson
■   Frank W Hudson
■   George R Hudson
■   Philip A Hudson
HUSBAND
■   John A Hudson


1911 -
Jane Hudson
Birth abt 1861
Bodminland, Cornwall, England (Written as  resident...)

RESIDENCE LOCATION
St Martins, Guernsey, Channel Islands

CHILDREN
■   Charles Hudson
■   Frank Walter Hudson
■   Kathleen Hudson
■   Laurie Grav Hudson
HUSBAND
■   John Andrew Hudson


Thatís all the info I have. Itís the Hudson side Iím tracing but Nan said she would have liked to know where both  her grandparents came from, itís just difficult when she doesnít know anything about them 😔
Siddons/Seddon(s)~Leicestershire, Dorset
Lewis~Dorset
Chard~Dorset
Hunt~Dorset
Ironside(s)~Durham, Dorset
Ferrett~Kent/Middlesex, Dorset
Porter~Somerset, Dorset
Moxom/Moxam/Moxham~Wiltshire, Dorset
Lovell~Dorset
Soper~Dorset

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Re: Jane Palfreyman birth c1861
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 June 18 21:02 BST (UK) »
How great that the 1911 Channel Islands census gives you everyoneís fatherís birthplace as well as their own!  I was not aware of that.

Have you looked for Palfreyman (and variants) individuals in earlier censuses with a birthplace of Hylton, Durham?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Jane Palfreyman birth c1861
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 June 18 21:08 BST (UK) »
I can't find a birth either, so suspect she was born under a different surname.

I have suspicion her father (or step father?) could be Robert Palfreyman b Hylton c1841. On 1861 he's a ship's carpenter, single, on the Donegat moored in Hamoaze, Cornwall. Says he's single, b Cumberland

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Re: Jane Palfreyman birth c1861
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 June 18 21:35 BST (UK) »
there's a marriage 30 July 1862 in Devonport St Mary of Robert Palfreyman & Jane Bennett.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Jane Palfreyman birth c1861
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 June 18 21:36 BST (UK) »
Yes, Robert looks very interesting.  For reference here is his birth family in 1851:

Hylton, Ford, Sunderland, Durham:

Elizabeth Palfreyman Head Wid 32 Pauper Sunderland Union born Berwick on Tweed
Robert do Son 10 Shipbuilderís labourer Durham Hylton
Philip do Son 7 Durham Hylton
George do Son 5 Durham Hylton
Mary do Daur 3 Durham Hylton
Thomas do Son 11mo Durham Hylton
Joseph Dover lodger Mar 26 Mason Cumberland
John Gibb lodger unm 22 Rail labourer Northumberland Alnwick
William Sutcliffe lodger Mar 27 Rail labourer Yorkshire Bolton
Jane Snowdon visitor unm 21 Durham Hylton

HO107/2395/16/25
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Jane Palfreyman birth c1861
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 02 June 18 21:39 BST (UK) »
All points to a navy link which could be the later connection to Portsea.