Keenan Family

[rosie99]

Where is Margaret in 1871

[Alma54]

Where is Margaret in 1871

As I said earlier, I can't find Margaret, her parents or any of her siblings in the 1871 census.

[Alma54]

Who were the witnesses on the marriage cert and what are the occupations of the fathers?

Hi, my apologies I missed your question, the marriage certificate has:

In the presence of James Shortal, then, x the mark of McLock or could be Mr Lock. I assume they are the witnesses
Their fathers occupations are Patrick Keenan-father John Keenan-occupation Labourer.
Margaret Hughes-father John Hughes-occupation Puddler.

Thanks again for any help you can give me.

[rosie99]

Where is Margaret in 1871

As I said earlier, I can't find Margaret, her parents or any of her siblings in the 1871 census.

I think you probably added it to your post after I had read it 

Going back to Patrick Keenan who do you have as his mother

[Alma54]

Where is Margaret in 1871

As I said earlier, I can't find Margaret, her parents or any of her siblings in the 1871 census.

I think you probably added it to your post after I had read it 

Going back to Patrick Keenan who do you have as his mother

Hi Rosie, I guess you are right, I edited the post after I spotted your question, my apologies.

I have Patrick Keenan's mother as Judith Crainah, I got that from the 1861 census, and the 1855 Baptism record of his brother Edward:
Name   Edward Keenan
Gender   Male
Baptism Date   08 Apr 1855
Baptism Place   Pontop, Durham, England
Father   Edwd. Keenan
Mother   Judith Crainah
FHL Film Number   2082485
Household Members   
Name   Age
Judith Crainah   
Edwd. Keenan   
Edward Keenan   

Other evidence from the GRO search facility is scant, but I believe on the balance of probability I have the correct family (famous last words of someone set for a fall).
Once again Rosie, thanks for your assistance, I really appreciate it.

[rosie99]

Malachi, Mary & John T in 1881 

RG11 / 4855 f66 p41
22, Lawson Street, Linthorpe, Middlesbrough
John Hughes age 42 occ Puddler born Ireland
Mary Hughes age 42 bn Ireland
John T Hughes age 19 bn Oldham
John T Keaning age 5 (Lodger) bn Middlesbrough
two other lodgers bn Ireland

[Girl Guide]

Malachi Rosie    You have John as the head chap.  Just checked the census reference you gave and it shows John and Mary.   

[rosie99]

This family matches Malachi & Mary who were in Oldham with daughter Margaret in 1861.  John T Keaning is the eldest child of Patrick & Margaret. 

I think Malachi had a brush with the law in the 1850's Oldham - perhaps he changed his name when he moved

ADDED Margarets marriage names her father as John occ Puddler

[Girl Guide]

So why is there a five year gap in birth years between the 1861 and 1881?

1861 has Malachi born c1834 and 1881 has John born c1839.  Mary's year of birth changes as well, 1835 in 1861 and 1839 in 1881.

John T also has different birth years, 1859 and 1862.

Trying to disguise who they were by changing their birth years?