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Liverpool mersey Pilots
« on: Tuesday 05 June 18 05:31 BST (UK) »
Hi--can anyone help? My great great grandfather Edward Jones birth about 1828 (sorry about the Jones!) is a pilot on his marriage certificate at St Bride's Liverpool 1855. Address 62 Huskisson Street.
I can't find any record of his time as a pilot on the internet or the possibility he died at sea in a shipping accident, as he has a widow in the 1871 census. I am wondering what may have happened to him.Thanks

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Re: Liverpool mersey Pilots
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 June 18 08:03 BST (UK) »
Many newspaper reports in November 1866 (he was killed on the 9th):

"Edward Jones, pilot of the Mersey, met a shocking death Friday. While superintending the removal of a vessel from the Liverpool side to Birkenhead ....."

"On the 9th instant, Mr. Edward Jones, pilot, of this port, killed on board the ship Hydrabad."

"on approaching the Cheshire shore the force of the tide gave the ship a sudden swing, and the tow-rope snapped. Edward Jones, the pilot of No. 8 boat, was standing on the top-gallant forecastle at the time, and the rope in its jerk struck him so violently across the stomach as nearly to cut his body in two, causing almost instant death"
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Re: Liverpool mersey Pilots
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 June 18 10:21 BST (UK) »
Hi--can anyone help? My great great grandfather Edward Jones birth about 1828 (sorry about the Jones!) is a pilot on his marriage certificate at St Bride's Liverpool 1855. Address 62 Huskisson Street.
I can't find any record of his time as a pilot on the internet or the possibility he died at sea in a shipping accident, as he has a widow in the 1871 census. I am wondering what may have happened to him.Thanks

Hi motown girl

You've posted this enquiry in the wrong place your post is not a Look-Up Offer. Did you mean to post in the Mersey Pilot Look-Up Offer thread?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=322517.0

If so we can ask for it to be moved there. Otherwise it could be moved to Look-Up Requests or the main Lancs enquiries.

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Liverpool mersey Pilots
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 June 18 00:22 BST (UK) »
Hi, sorry if I am posting in wrong place--I find the site a bit difficult to master.
My Grt Grt Grandfather Edward Jones is listed on his marriage certificate as a pilot in Liverpool in 1855. He had a youngish widow and I am wondering if he died at sea. His address was 62 Huskisson Street. I can't find any other information about him. Thanks


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Re: Liverpool mersey Pilots
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 June 18 00:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much Shaun J. What a tragic but amazing find. I am truly grateful.
I also didn't see your answer initially--so I posted again in the general section, sorry.
I am so thrilled at this information as I have worked on my tree for 12 years and this was a piece of missing information--very happy with Rootschat!

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Re: Liverpool mersey Pilots
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 June 18 06:37 BST (UK) »
Baptism: 20 Apr 1857 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
 Edward Jones - [Child] of Edward Jones & Margaret
     Abode: Huskison St
     Occupation: Pilot
     Baptised by: J. W. Welsh Asst. Curate
     Register: Baptisms 1856 - 1857, Page 269, Entry 2151
     Source: LDS Film 93887

Baptism: 16 Sep 1858 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
 Mary Gracie Jones - [Child] of Edward Jones & Margaret
     Born: 28 Aug 1858
     Abode: Huskisson St.
     Occupation: Pilot
     Baptised by: Whiston T. Bristow, Offg. Minr.
     Register: Baptisms 1858 - 1859, Page 20, Entry 153
     Source: LDS Film 1656561

Baptism: 8 Feb 1860 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
 Margaret Shankland Jones - [Child] of Edward Jones & Margaret
     Born: 2 Dec 1859
     Abode: Huskisson St.
     Occupation: Pilot
     Baptised by: W. R. Duncan, Curate
     Register: Baptisms 1859 - 1860, Page 195, Entry 1554
     Source: LDS Film 1656561

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Re: Liverpool mersey Pilots
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 June 18 10:04 BST (UK) »
Have you found them in the 1861 census? There was another pilot named Edward Jones who died of fever (contracted on an Egyptian frigate) on 14 March 1861.
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Re: Liverpool mersey Pilots
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 10 June 18 23:07 BST (UK) »
Per the pilotage records in "Beyond The Bar" there was Edward Jones (no birth year recorded) who was licensed as a pilot in 1851, died 1861;  and Edward Jones born 1838, licensed 1858, died 1866.

Motown Girl, I think yours is most likely the one that died of fever in 1861.
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Re: Liverpool mersey Pilots
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 June 18 08:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks garstonite and shaun j
I do have his children's records and his marriage in St Bride's--I suppose I just need to find out whether he was the one who was killed by the tow rope or died of fever!!!