Author Topic: Thomas Butcher Warwickshire b1822, 1851 census, marriage look up please.  (Read 1476 times)

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Hi everyone, i am trying to find Thomas Butcher b1822 Warwickshire / Cumberland ?
Married to a Mary Ann from ?.
I cannot find any marriage for them but they had their first daughter Hannah Butcher baptised 1849 in Whitehaven Cumbria. I have them on the other census's but not 1851. I would like to know Mary Ann's maiden name, marriage date if possible.
This family had most of their children in Oxfordshire.

Thanking you all in anticipation

Moira
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Re: Thomas Butcher Warwickshire b1822, 1851 census, marriage look up please.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 June 18 20:12 BST (UK) »
Give us the other census(es) first.
I'm not conviced Hannah was b Butcher. I can't see an obvious civil record

Nor can I even see an 1849 child in this 1861 census?
Is this the census that you have claimed?  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7KN-8P5
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Re: Thomas Butcher Warwickshire b1822, 1851 census, marriage look up please.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 June 18 20:20 BST (UK) »
If other children appear on later censuses have you checked for birth registrations on freebmd then checked GRO online for mothers maiden name?
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Re: Thomas Butcher Warwickshire b1822, 1851 census, marriage look up please.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 June 18 20:30 BST (UK) »
So how have you linked the FS baptism in Cumberland with the family in Oxfordshire?

You haven’t really given us very much info

Simplest way to find mmn is as shown above using GRO online
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Re: Thomas Butcher Warwickshire b1822, 1851 census, marriage look up please.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 June 18 20:36 BST (UK) »
On one census it says he was born Cumberland on another it says Warwickshire. Both are right because Mary and the children are on both. Hannah I found on family Search but I'm wondering if she died as she doesn't appear on either the 61 or 71 census.
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Re: Thomas Butcher Warwickshire b1822, 1851 census, marriage look up please.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 June 18 20:46 BST (UK) »
The transcript of the 1871 That im looking at says Cambridge?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V518-1H9

and the 1881 is Warwick

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-XT6W

and same again in 1891 (warwick)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4NYF-1ZM
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Re: Thomas Butcher Warwickshire b1822, 1851 census, marriage look up please.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 June 18 20:56 BST (UK) »
Pauline the 1871 I got from findmypast says Cumberland and they are living in Carlisle. It's the same children too.
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Re: Thomas Butcher Warwickshire b1822, 1851 census, marriage look up please.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 June 18 20:59 BST (UK) »
Pauline the 1871 I got from findmypast says Cumberland and they are living in Carlisle. It's the same children too.

Is that what the image says, or have you relied on the index?
I merely stated that it had been TRANSCRIBED as Cambridge.

Have you followed up on the instruction about finding Mary's maiden name from the index?
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Re: Thomas Butcher Warwickshire b1822, 1851 census, marriage look up please.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 June 18 21:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Pauline, it's the image. I don't know where to look now, that's 3 different birth places.
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