Author Topic: Toxteth Work House WAINWRIGHT 1919  (Read 4293 times)

Offline Stoodly

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 211
    • View Profile
Toxteth Work House WAINWRIGHT 1919
« on: Saturday 09 June 18 01:15 BST (UK) »
Greetings from Australia.

I am looking for information about BESSIE WAINWRIGHT (DOB unknown) who was reported to be in a  "workhouse type establishment" in Toxteth in August 1919 when her three-year-old son JAMES WAINWRIGHT was adopted out. James was born on 26.7.1916 in Toxteth to Bessie and father unknown.

Any information regarding Bessie - date/place of birth etc would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Diana




Offline garstonite

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 11,883
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Toxteth Work House WAINWRIGHT 1919
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 June 18 07:39 BST (UK) »
We are not allowed to post 1911 census details - but I can tell you there is only one Bessie Wainwright in Liverpool on it - noted down as Bessie - so - I have found her on IGI
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&localeSubcountryName=Lancashire&query=%2Bgivenname%3Abessie~%20%2Bsurname%3Awainwright~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aliverpool~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1886-1888~%20%2Brecord_country%3AEngland%20%2Brecord_subcountry%3A%22England%2CLancashire%22

Look for the Bessie Wainwright born 1887 West Derby ( a district of Liverpool )
this Bessie -
Father John Wainwright / mother Margaret Wainwright
Bessie was born Great Crosby , Liverpool
of course we have no way of knowing if YOUR Bessie was born Liverpool - but this is the only one who was in 1911 census
definitely one to make a note of  :)
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

Offline KGarrad

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,084
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Toxteth Work House WAINWRIGHT 1919
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 June 18 08:02 BST (UK) »
A shorter link, to take you directly to that 1911 record:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWT3-RF6
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

Offline Stoodly

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 211
    • View Profile
Re: Toxteth Work House WAINWRIGHT 1919
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 June 18 10:53 BST (UK) »
Thank so much. I had this one noted as a possibility but am wondering if the Toxteth Work House records are available as they may provide more information about this specific Bessie?

Would be grateful for any steers in how to access these!

Regards

Diana


Offline rosie99

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 42,062
  • ALFIE 2009 - 2021 (Rosbercon Sky's the Limit)
    • View Profile
Re: Toxteth Work House WAINWRIGHT 1919
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 June 18 11:28 BST (UK) »
Very few records for the workhouse survive 
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/ToxtethPark/  (See Records at bottom of page)

It is possible that she was not a resident of the workhouse but just in the 'hospital' giving birth
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Blue70

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,692
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Toxteth Work House WAINWRIGHT 1919
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 June 18 19:39 BST (UK) »
Greetings from Australia.

I am looking for information about BESSIE WAINWRIGHT (DOB unknown) who was reported to be in a  "workhouse type establishment" in Toxteth in August 1919 when her three-year-old son JAMES WAINWRIGHT was adopted out. James was born on 26.7.1916 in Toxteth to Bessie and father unknown.

Any information regarding Bessie - date/place of birth etc would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Diana

Do you have a copy of James Wainwright's birth certificate? There is a possible birth index where the mother's surname is Wainwright in Toxteth Park in July/August/September 1916. The birth certificate should give the place of birth and an address for the mother that might be different to the place of birth. It's possible that the mother just went somewhere to have the baby then returned to her old address. What information do you have about the arrangements for the child? This was before "The Adoption of Children Act, 1926" made adoption in England and Wales a legal process.

Name: James Wainwright       
Mother: Wainwright
District: Toxteth Park
Quarter: Jul/Aug/Sep
Year: 1916 
Volume: 8b 
Page 366 

GRO [cheaper PDFs currently available for £6]:-

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp


Blue

Offline Stoodly

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 211
    • View Profile
Re: Toxteth Work House WAINWRIGHT 1919
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 June 18 00:04 BST (UK) »
Thanks Blue, I have ordered that Wainwright birth PDF!

Regards

Diana

Offline Stoodly

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 211
    • View Profile
Re: Toxteth Work House WAINWRIGHT 1919
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 30 June 18 04:02 BST (UK) »
Updater: the hunches paid off. The birth certificate for baby James links to the Bessie Wainwright in the 1911 Census, daughter of John and Margaret. She gives their address as her place of work address as her father's place. 

But her residence and where the baby was born is 34 Newstead Road, Toxteth Park.

She would have been 29 years old and was unmarried.

Thanks for the steer.

Regards

Diana

Offline Blue70

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,692
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Toxteth Work House WAINWRIGHT 1919
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 30 June 18 09:47 BST (UK) »
It looks like alternative arrangements were made she didn't have to go into the workhouse/hospital. She may have had support from the father of the child or her parents.

Unfortunately no electoral registers were published in 1916 and 1917. The register for 1914-15 has George Mills at 34 Newstead Road but looking at the address in other years there were no long term occupants around that time. Gore's 1911 has Thomas Collins, master mariner, 1911 census has a Heayberd family, 1920 electoral register has Simon with other surnames Hughes and Overend so a high turn over of occupants. Bessie may not have been there long. 


Blue