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Alexander Warren
« on: Thursday 14 June 18 13:16 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I have a specific problem that I hope someone could provide guidance on.

I received an original apprentice's indenture certificate two years ago for Alexander Warren, who was indentured as an apprentice Merchandizer on 5th May 1744, his father is William Warren, Haberdasher and citizen of London.

My problem is proving the connection between the last definite Warren in my tree and Alexander Warren.
Last definite - William Richard Warren (1799-1860), born 25 May 1799, baptised 16 June 1799,  parents William & Sarah Warren, (from baptism record.) William Richard was a Harness-maker married to Eliza Backs 6 July 1823 at St. Mary's, Newington

His parents are possibly William Warren (?1767-) and there are several marriages in this time frame for William Warren & a Sarah:
- Sarah Andrews married 19 Sep 1791,
- Sarah Flindell married 12 Sep 1790
- Sarah Rowe married 1 Sep 1794

Possible siblings of William Richard:
- George Warren born 29 July 1793
- Alexander Warren born 28 August 1801

There is a will for an Alexander Warren proved PCC 1 August 1777 in which his wife is Margaret Wingfield and his children are named as Margaret Hester Warren, Mercy Warren and William Warren. His sister Hester Cotton and nephew Benjamin Cotton are also mentioned.
- Margaret Hester Warren baptised 29 Oct 1755
- Mercy Warren baptised 8 March 1757
- William Warren baptised 13 Dec 1767

The Alexander Warren of the will married Margaret Wingfield 21 Dec 1754.

There is a baptism for Alexander Warren 19 Jan 1729, parents William and Esther Warren.

Possible siblings of Alexander:
Elizabeth Warren baptised 25 Nov 1720, parents William and Hester Warren
Elizabeth Warren baptised 28 May 1726, parents William and Hester Warren
Sarah Warren baptised 4 April 1731, parents William and Esther Warren
Mary Warren baptised 30 Sep 1733. parents William and Hester Warren
Hester Warren (from the will)

Alexander Warren received the Freedom of the City on 5 Sep 1755, by patrimony, father William Warren, deceased.
I am unable to prove that the Alexander of the will is the same Alexander as  my apprentice, I cannot find a death or burial for an Alexander Warren around 1777.

There is a marriage for William Warren and Hester Roberts 29 Jan 1718 at Stepney.
Many William Warrens born around 1700 how do I find Alexander's father?

Any advice or thoughts gratefully appreciated on whether I am on the right path or not.

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Re: Alexander Warren
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 September 18 06:00 BST (UK) »
It might be worth checking the Freedom of the City records on Ancestr to see if the family can be tracked.

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2052&geo_a=r&o_iid=41013&o_lid=41013&o_sch=Web+Property

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Re: Alexander Warren
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 September 18 14:28 BST (UK) »
Hello
If you look at the Freedom of the City of London Records as suggested there is this
William Warren s of Alexander Warren admitted 1718 to the Haberdasher Guild

Surely that is the William Warren who married  Hester Roberts 29.1.1718.
George bapt 1793 is buried 10 Jan 1794 age 4 mths of Leicester Street if that helps.

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Re: Alexander Warren
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 September 18 18:26 BST (UK) »
Hello, thank you philipsearching and ciderdrinker for the replies.
Ciderdrinker where did you see that result that George Warren was 4 months old at death? I can only see The Select Deaths & Burials 1538-1991, where burial is listed as 10 Jan 1794, but no other details of age or address.
Thank you


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Re: Alexander Warren
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 September 18 10:12 BST (UK) »
Hi
The burial for George is on FindMyPast.
It gives his age as 4 m cause of death looks like Deel.(all the others on the page seem to be  convulsions,fever or old age)
Died the 10th.
His burial cost 8' and 9 d with 3 d tax
There's also what looks to be the place he was buried C 3 W 108.
I can send you a copy if you pm me with your email address

ps while I'm on there,possible burials for William Warren.
William of St James died of influenza buried at St Ann's Soho 3.5.1812 age 38 years (b1774)
William at St James died 24.5.1836 age 74 at the Workhouse  (b1762)
William 13 .3.1801 St Martins in the Fields Church crt
William St Clement Danes 18.3.1804 no age or details

I've done St Martins in the fields, St James Piccadilly,St Annes and St Clements for William Warrens born 1757-1783.
Obviously he could have died after 1837 or been older so there could well be more out there.

pps There is a William Warren witness to Alexander Warren's marriage to Hannah Rudd 15.10.1826 at St Giles Cripplegate I'm not sure if it's the father or brother.

There's a William Warren buried in the same parish 6.6.1813 age 47 Crown St (b 1766) which would fit nicely for Dad.

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Re: Alexander Warren
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 September 18 07:23 BST (UK) »
Hi ciderdrinker,

I was able to see George Warren's death on FindMyPast, thank you for that.

I will also start having a look at the William Warren burials, of William son of Alexander, unfortunately it was a common name.

Alexander Warren's father was William Warren, there are plenty of them born around 1700, there are some Quaker births recorded in the early 1700s of William Warren, am unsure that these are the correct ones for me, will keep delving!

Cheers