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Re: Murdoch (Murdo) Macleod and Christina (Christy) Campbell
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 19 June 18 20:43 BST (UK) »
Yes of course although it's not only for the benefit of us researchers but for yourself too as it would be so much easier to follow & pick out any discrepancies ;)

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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Murdoch (Murdo) Macleod and Christina (Christy) Campbell
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 19 June 18 20:48 BST (UK) »
I know...it's a good idea. I'll do anything to make headway.
Talk tomorrow.
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Re: Murdoch (Murdo) Macleod and Christina (Christy) Campbell
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 19 June 18 21:38 BST (UK) »
Suzie, there is this 1871 entry:

Murdo Mcleod 63 carter b. Harris, Invernesshire
Christian Mcleod 55 b. Harris, Invernesshire
Donald Mcleod 18 b. Harris, Invernesshire
Isabella Mcleod 13 b. Harris, Invernesshire  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYGY-84D

Address: 27 Keith St, Stornaway

I don't know if this family group connects to the previous families you mentioned  :-\

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Re: Murdoch (Murdo) Macleod and Christina (Christy) Campbell
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 19 June 18 22:30 BST (UK) »
The family you did mention earlier with a son Donald, this may be them in 1841:

Murdh Macleod 25 agr lab
Christy Macleod 24
Donald Macleod 3 Months

Address: Island Of Pabbay, Harris

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Re: Murdoch (Murdo) Macleod and Christina (Christy) Campbell
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 19 June 18 22:37 BST (UK) »
The family you did mention earlier with a son Donald, this may be them in 1841:

Murdh Macleod 25 agr lab
Christy Macleod 24
Donald Macleod 3 Months

Address: Island Of Pabbay, Harris

Monica,

It looks as though this is a wrong Donald in the research process?

"A son, Donald, b abt 1838, married Margaret NICOL 26 Sep 1867 in Gamrie, Banffshire. He named his parents as Murdoch McLeod, fisherman and Marshallima Mcleod MS Campbell"

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Murdoch (Murdo) Macleod and Christina (Christy) Campbell
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 20 June 18 09:01 BST (UK) »
Suzie, does Donald's marriage certificate say whether his parents were deceased?

Marshallina (I presume if it says Marshallima that the m is a mistake) is interesting, because there is no record anywhere on SP of a Marshallina or Marshallima before 1900. I am wondering if it is perhaps an east-coast Registrar's misunderstanding of the Gaelic given name Marsaili. This name is a derivative of Margaret and is sometimes anglicised as Marcella and sometimes Marjorie/Margery.

I think it would be quite difficult to mishear Christina as Marshallina!

I see that in 1881 the family were at 'Cement Building, Gamrie' **
Donald McLeod, 42, fisherman, born Tarbert, Inverness-shire
Margaret McLeod, wife, 42, born Gamrie
Donald, son, 11, born Gamrie
John Nicol, son, 9, born Gamrie
William Alexander, son, 7, born Gamrie
(I wonder why they didn't name a son Murdoch?)

Tarbert, Inverness-shire, is in the parish of Harris, as is the island of Pabba(y)/Pabaigh in the Sound of Harris. However Pabbay is about as far as you can get from Tarbert and still be in the parish of Harris.

**The LDS transcription of the 1881 census omits the useful information on the page headers of the original, including the name of the town or village, but it is in Enumeration District 1 along with Seatown, Bankhead, Burnside, High Street, Strait Path, Chapelton, Bog House and Harbour Head, so I think it is in Gardenstown. There is another Strait Path, in the burgh of Banff, which comes up in online searches, but it is not this one because the one in Banff is in the parish of Banff, and this one is in the parish of Gamrie. A look at the original of the census on SP would sort that out.

See also https://canmore.org.uk/site/160640/gardenstown-cement-house-centre-house-and-store
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

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Re: Murdoch (Murdo) Macleod and Christina (Christy) Campbell
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 20 June 18 09:21 BST (UK) »
Hallo everyone...thank you so much for your suggestions.

Monica...and Rosinish...that family you both found in 1841 looks as if it could be them. It doesn't seem to come up on Ancestry at all which is why I have missed it, but I will have a further search for it. It seems it would tally with the possibility I found for 1851.

I'm not sure of the 1871 one you found. I'll look at that and see.

Forfarian...on son Donald's marriage certificate, neither parent was marked as deceased.
I agree the name Marshallima is strange. It's the only place it appears but the maiden name of Campbell was there.

I'll try and do a timeline later this morning as Annie suggested.
Thank you again...
Suzie


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Re: Murdoch (Murdo) Macleod and Christina (Christy) Campbell
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 20 June 18 10:02 BST (UK) »
It doesn't seem to come up on Ancestry at all which is why I have missed it
See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0
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Re: Murdoch (Murdo) Macleod and Christina (Christy) Campbell
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 20 June 18 10:32 BST (UK) »
Annie and others.
Here is the timeline I have done. Never done one before and it is a good exercise.
Already one or two things have caught my eye and made me say...how can that be?
Anyway, here it is:

TIMELINE FOR MURDOCH MACLEOD AND CHRISTINA CAMPBELL

c1808. Birth. Harris.       Murdoch Macleod
c1817. Birth. Harris.       Christina Campbell   

9 Jun 1840. Marriage. Harris. Murdoch Macleod of Pabbay and Christina Campbell of Carinish

Poss 1841 Census. Pabbay, Harris. Murdh 25, ag lab, Christy 24, Donald 3 months.

Poss 1851 Census. Scalpay, Harris. Murdo 43, farmer, Christina 37, Donald 10, William 8, John 5 plus John Macleod, son 21 b Harris 1830.

27 Feb 1857. Birth. Scalpay, Harris. Isabella Macleod, dau of Murdoch Macleod, cottar and Christina Macleod MS Campbell. Informant, an aunt, Catherine Macleod.

26 Sep 1867. Marriage. Gamrie, Banff.  Donald, son of Murdoch Macleod, fisherman and Marshallima Macleod MS Campbell, married Margaret Nicol. (Parents NOT deceased.)
NB: This marriage is correct for the family I am doing, and was my starting place for working backwards into Macleods.
1867. On marriage. Donald noted as 28.
1871. Gamrie, Banff. Donald noted as aged 32, born Harris.

Poss 1871 Census. 27 Keith Street, Stornoway. Murdo 63 carter, Christian 55, Donald 18 and Isabella 13. All born Harris

1881. Gamrie, Banff. Donald noted as 43, born Tarbert.

15 Jan 1891. Stornoway. Marriage of daughter Isabella Macleod to Neil Macaskill, widower and shoemaker. Marriage at 7 Point Street, Stornoway. Parents named as Murdo Macleod, blacksmith and Christina Macleod, MS Campbell, both deceased.

18 Aug 1939. Death of Isabella aged 82. Parents named exactly as on marriage certificate.

I have to go out shortly so will ponder on this meanwhile.
Suzie