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Re: Thomas ROSE b. 1852 Rowley Regis = Mary Ann SMITH/PARKES
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 23 June 18 17:04 BST (UK) »
Is this the marriage that you are not telling us about?

Joseph Parkes m Hannah Smith   13 Dec 1874 @    Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England

We NEED parental/witness names to progress back to 1851 and before.
If you don't have the certificate then BUY it
If you do have the certificate then type all the information on it into a reply.

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Re: Thomas ROSE b. 1852 Rowley Regis = Mary Ann SMITH/PARKES
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 26 June 18 15:08 BST (UK) »
Yes that is the marriage certificate, thank you.

(I didn't remember the exact details, from prior searching years ago, which is why I hadn't written them down on the post.)

I will have to buy it then and get back to the site.

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Re: Thomas ROSE b. 1852 Rowley Regis = Mary Ann SMITH/PARKES
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 26 June 18 15:45 BST (UK) »
It might be possible to see:

1841: Elie STOKES, b. 1817, age 24 RR (possibly Sarah's brother, which would enable me to see the family)

As mentioned below: Sarah ROSE (STOKES) b. 1822 is married by the time of this 1841 census.

(ROSE/STOKES m. 1841 - I have to get this marriage certificate too, along with PARKES/SMITH m.1874.)  :-[


Mary PARKES b. 1853, Phillis, Isaac  ...births were registered as SMITH because the Joseph PARKES/Hannah SMITH marriage took place after all the children were all born - m.1874

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Re: Thomas ROSE b. 1852 Rowley Regis = Mary Ann SMITH/PARKES
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 26 June 18 16:06 BST (UK) »
Sarah b 1822 wed just after the 1841 census, not before.

We'll look forward to your additional information from the 1841 marriage. The 1873 marriage is postec earlier on this thread
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Re: Thomas ROSE b. 1852 Rowley Regis = Mary Ann SMITH/PARKES
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 26 June 18 16:08 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Lesleyperry on Tuesday 26 June 18 15:45 BST (UK)


As mentioned below: Sarah ROSE (STOKES) b. 1822 is married by the time of this 1841 census.

(ROSE/STOKES m. 1841 - I have to get this marriage certificate too, along with PARKES/SMITH m.1874.)  :-[


The marriage between Thomas Rose & Sarah Stokes took place on 12 Jul 1841 (he was 20 she was 19) The transcript is on freereg, it names his father as David Rose occ Furnaceman and hers as John Stokes occ Nailer.  There is more information on the transcript

- the census was in June 1841.  They were resident in the same property - HO107/997 bk2 f31 p8
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Re: Thomas ROSE b. 1852 Rowley Regis = Mary Ann SMITH/PARKES
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 26 June 18 16:15 BST (UK) »
In case Eli is related  ;)
Baptism at Dudley also on freereg
28 Dec 1817 -    Eli - parents John & Sarah Stokes
abode Netherton
fathers occ Nailor

Freereg again  :)
22 Sep 1822
Sarah - parents John & Sarah Stokes
abode Rowley
fathers occ Nailor

Probably other siblings but I will leave you to look for them
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Re: Thomas ROSE b. 1852 Rowley Regis = Mary Ann SMITH/PARKES
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 26 June 18 16:18 BST (UK) »
In 1841 Eli is in Stafford Prison (occ Nailer)
HO107/1010 bk 6 f41 p19
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Re: Thomas ROSE b. 1852 Rowley Regis = Mary Ann SMITH/PARKES
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 26 June 18 17:26 BST (UK) »
Quote from: PaulineJ on Tuesday 26 June 18 16:06 BST (UK)
Sarah b 1822 wed just after the 1841 census, not before.

We'll look forward to your additional information from the 1841 marriage. The 1873 marriage is postec earlier on this thread

Re: 1841 Marriage Thomas ROSE/STOKES - David ROSE is the father, furnaceman.

Is there a David ROSE, head, with a Thomas ROSE, b. 1821 on the 1841 census RR? 

(I will look into getting the marriage certificate too).

Thank you.

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Re: Thomas ROSE b. 1852 Rowley Regis = Mary Ann SMITH/PARKES
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 26 June 18 17:32 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Lesleyperry on Tuesday 26 June 18 17:26 BST (UK)


(I will look into getting the marriage certificate too).


You don't need to get the marriage certificate all the details are on freereg.
https://www.freereg.org.uk/

Thomas and Sarah are not with parents in 1841
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