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Re: Tracing the FEVERS family
« Reply #9 on: Monday 25 June 18 22:11 BST (UK) »
Inconsistencies in age at that time are so common as to be pretty normal.  If he was “60” in 1841 that means 60-64, given the rounding system applied in that census.  Of course we only see the enumerator’s interpretation in the summary schedule, not the original household return - it’s always possible that the household return said “50” (= 50-54) and the enumerator made an error in transcribing it.

After his death the informant (whoever it was - do you have the certificate?) has given a lower age to the registrar, and a slightly different age again has been given to the newspaper for the announcement. Generally speaking, details given after a death are less reliable than those given during life, for the obvious reason that the deceased could not be consulted.

So, either the 1846 death is the right Thomas, but his age was given inconsistently in various places, or it is the wrong Thomas, and “your” Thomas’ death has not been found.

(The former looks more likely to me).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Tracing the FEVERS family
« Reply #10 on: Monday 25 June 18 22:21 BST (UK) »
"Inconsistencies in age at that time are so common as to be pretty normal.  If he was “60” in 1841 that means 60-64, given the rounding system applied in that census.  Of course we only see the enumerator’s interpretation in the summary schedule, not the original household return - it’s always possible that the household return said “50” (= 50-54) and the enumerator made an error in transcribing it."

So the image I have of the 1841 census is not an original document?
Wiltshire: JONES, BANKS
Yorkshire: FEVERS, SCALES
Kent:  RUMLEY, NIGH
London:  HUGHES, NIGHTINGALE

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Re: Tracing the FEVERS family
« Reply #11 on: Monday 25 June 18 22:25 BST (UK) »
What you now see is an image of the original enumerator’s summary schedule.  The separate returns completed by householders and collected by the enumerator do not survive; they were transcribed at the time onto a combined summary schedule by the enumerator and, as with every transcription exercise, this provided an opportunity for errors to creep in.

The only published census for which the original household returns survive is 1911.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Tracing the FEVERS family
« Reply #12 on: Monday 25 June 18 22:36 BST (UK) »
I am amazed!  Thank you for that explanation.

I tend to agree with you that we have one and the same person.  The name, location and approximate dates all seem to come together.

Regards,
Bryce
Wiltshire: JONES, BANKS
Yorkshire: FEVERS, SCALES
Kent:  RUMLEY, NIGH
London:  HUGHES, NIGHTINGALE


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Re: Tracing the FEVERS family
« Reply #13 on: Monday 25 June 18 22:41 BST (UK) »
Children for the Fevers couple:

1814 Emma, born 8 Jul & bapt 23 Oct at Doncaster to Thomas (servant) & Ann, of Doncaster.
1816 George, bapt 13 Oct at Armthorpe to Thomas “Feavers” (groom to Sir G Cooke) & Ann, of Armthorpe.
1818 Mary, bapt 25 Oct at Armthorpe to Thomas (groom to Sir G Cooke) & Ann, of Wheatley.
1820 Thomas, bapt 8 Oct at Armthorpe to Thomas (servant) & Anne, of Armthorpe.
1823 Charles, bapt 13 Jul at Armthorpe to Thomas (groom to Sir W Cooke) & Ann, of Armthorpe.
1828 Ann Sophia, born 21 Oct & bapt 23 Nov at Doncaster to Thomas (publican) & Ann, of Doncaster.
1831 Charlotte, bapt 4 March at Barnsley to Thomas “Fers” (publican) & Ann, of Barnsley.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Tracing the FEVERS family
« Reply #14 on: Monday 25 June 18 23:09 BST (UK) »
I had missed Mary.  Thanks.

Add George Fevers (1816-1856) to the list as well.
Wiltshire: JONES, BANKS
Yorkshire: FEVERS, SCALES
Kent:  RUMLEY, NIGH
London:  HUGHES, NIGHTINGALE

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Re: Tracing the FEVERS family
« Reply #15 on: Monday 25 June 18 23:25 BST (UK) »
George now added.

If you already had those baptisms then you’ll have seen the Cooke baronet link which ties into the 1846 newspaper death notice for Thomas.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Tracing the FEVERS family
« Reply #16 on: Monday 25 June 18 23:46 BST (UK) »
Alas that information did not come over to Ancestry but I see it on FindMyPast.

Thanks
Wiltshire: JONES, BANKS
Yorkshire: FEVERS, SCALES
Kent:  RUMLEY, NIGH
London:  HUGHES, NIGHTINGALE

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Re: Tracing the FEVERS family
« Reply #17 on: Friday 23 September 22 20:39 BST (UK) »
I am a direct descendant of Emma Fevers (1814-91), she married Joshua STONES on 11 Feb 1838 at the Cathedral Church of St Peter and St Paul , Sheffield. He was christened at Snaith , it is not clear if he and Emma met in Sheffield or moved here as a couple.
They had 9 children together, their middle child Charles was my Great great Grandfather.