Benjamin Hainsworth - Bradford/Thornton

[sheepy19]

I'm looking into my ancestors the Hainsworth's and wanted to know if anyone can help me find out where they might have come from?

My GGG Grandmother Margaret Hainsworth was born in Leeds 1810? to Benjamin Hainsworth from Thornton (also referred to as Bradford) and Jane. Benjamin had a son Benjamin Jr b.1812 who had a Wine shop in Leeds (Papillon and Hainsworth), another son Joshua b.1808 and a daughter Ann b.1815 (who married my GGG Grandfather William Jones b.1814 after her sister died).
The family moved to Liverpool around 1850 and ran pubs and booze shops.

On the 1841 census Benjamin (1781-1864) is a Beershop Keeper in Brick Lane in Bradford.)
I think he may have had a brother called Ephraim. b.1781
I know There are lots of Hainsworths from the area, especially with Biblical names so I would be interested to find a connection to any of these? Or any information about parents or siblings to Benjamin Sr,

Thanks in advance, Luke..

[ciderdrinker]

Hello Luke
this looks like him .
Thornton by Bradford
Benjamin Hanesworth baptised 25 Feb 1781 to John Hanesworth.

Remember the Vicar chose the spelling based on what he thought he heard.
Other possible siblings
Mary Hanesworth 17.7.1768 d of John
Mary 10.6.1770  d of John
David Hanesworth 28.1.1770  so John
Martha 30.3.1774    " "
Lydia 10.11.1776   " "
Jane 12.2.1777  " "
Jonas 1779   " "
James 10.11.1785   "     "
Ezekiel 12 8.1792 s of John Hainsworth
Hannah 5.5.1784 d of John Hainsworth

possible Ephriam s of ---- Mary Hanesworth 3.10.1783.
I can only see the transcriptions so I don't know if it's a single mother or just that they can't read his father's name.

possible marriages Bradford St Peter
John Hainsworth woolcomber  and Martha Drake 14.101.1764 or John a weaver and Sarah Jowett 3.1.1768.

He could have remarried for the time of Ephriam's birth.

Sorry but the Library is about to close

Ciderdrinker

[sheepy19]

Thanks Ciderdrinker (and what a day it is for drinking cider!)
That definitely looks like John is his father.
And probably looks like some of those siblings would be too.
Some are really close in age and same name so do you think these are the two John's
children mixed together?

I got Ephraim from 1861 census, Benjamin Jr. lives with his cousin Thomas aged 40 and family,
I looked up Thomas (b. 1821 in Thornton) and i think it shows Ephraim Hainsworth as his father.

[ciderdrinker]

Hello
Yes I'm afraid there does look to be more than one John.
And I agree with you that Thomas Hainsworth's father was Ephriam.
I've managed to find a digital copy of Ephriam's  baptism and he is a bastard child of Thornton workhouse.
There's supposed to be a brother James 28.8.1781 but i can't get the digital image of that.

Looking at Benjamin's on there in 1781 his father John is of somewhere like Thor ???ton??? comber?
The ink is very faint on the Bishops Transcripts .I can read the entry underneath but not his.
So going through them

Elizabeth non conf chapel d of John and Sarah of Thornton 10.4.1760 witness Jonas in the same house
Timothy 2.2.1760 s of John just can't find
Jonas 30.11.1766 s of John is right at the bottom and I can't read it.
Mary 3.7. 1768 d of John  of Clayton weaver.
Mary 10.6.1770 d of John of Clayton weaver
David 1.6.1770 s of John Thornton comber
Mary 27.12.1771 d of John Thornton comber
Martha 30.3.1774 d of John Allerton comber
Sarah 7.8.1774 d of John  of Clayton weaver
Lydia 10.11.1776 d of John Allerton comber
Jane 12.2.1777 d of John of Clayton weaver
Jonas 1779 I can't find
Hannah 5.5.1784 d of John of Thornton weaver
Hannah at the non conf chapel 10 Dec 1785 d of john and Sarah of Bradford.born 10.4.1785
Ezekiel 12.8.1792 s of john of Thornton wool comber
James 10.10.1785 s of John of Thornton weaver

Mary seems to be the daughter of Joshua of Thornton weaver 1758 March or April of that year.
Siblings
Ephriam 14.11.1756 of Thornton weaver
John so Joshua and Sarah at non conf 19.8.1760 in Worlesend
Johnathon 7.11.1762 of Thornton weaver
Elizabeth 1764   I can't spot the digital
David 27.6.1767    of Thornton weaver
Joshua 9.6.1769     "    "
Sarah 22.6.1771   "    "
Hannah 30.3.1774

Joshua bapt 28.2.1735 s of John  Thornton
Mary 28.12 1734 s of John  of Thornton weaver
Mary 16.2.1737 s of john  no luck
John 21.6.1740 s of John Thornton weaver
John s of John Nov 1746  i can't see

So we have John senior children 1734-1746
Sons John of Thornton wool comber children 1770-1792 and Joshua of thornton weaver  1756-1774
grandchildren Benjamin 1781 and  Mary 1758
great grandson Ephriam 1783

The images are on FindMyPast  if you want to look yourself.

Ciderdrinker

[sheepy19]

Thanks for your time and Looking at those. I managed to get a little bit of time on findmypast at the library today but will check out more over the next few days but I trust what you've got there is all I'll find myself

That Ephraim of Mary born to the workhouse died a couple of years later. Very sad actually. I think my Ephraim was born around 1780/1 according to the censuses and in thornton. I can see he married in 1803, but doesn't say father of groom. His age clashes with Benjamins.

Weaver and Comber..are they likely to be used interchangeably? If so it's confusing still.

Benjamin definitely was a Weaver before getting involved in the Beer and Wine Trade. So I would guess his father is John the weaver from Thornton. I can't find his marriage online..his spouse Jane is from Wakefield and they had their children in Leeds.

Everyone the son of John.
Surely 2 men of the same name and occupation in a village would think to come up with different names or use middle names. Ha. I'm thinking it might be best to accept john is the father and leave it there 

[sheepy19]

I've got a bit further, found out through Benjamin's death record his parents are John and Martha.
He had a sister Lydia.

Now looking for John and Martha parents etc., maiden name