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Ellen Jones Glanmorfa Abererch(Llanarmon)
« on: Monday 02 July 18 10:31 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for information about Ellen Jones before the 1861 census.She lives at Glanmorfa Abererch in the parish of LLanarmon with her grandparents in 1861 and  1871 she's still there in 1881 having married William Jones and had three children,she died at the birth of their son John.Her father was Evan Jones Glanmorfa,I would like to find out who her mother was,Ellen was born in Middlesex according to the census,I have no record of her parents wedding or death any information would be very welcome.

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Re: Ellen Jones Glanmorfa Abererch(Llanarmon)
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 July 18 11:34 BST (UK) »
Hi

"and had three children,she died at the birth of their son John.Her father was Evan Jones"

* How do you know that her father was Evan?

* I can see 2x children (Mary Ellen C1878, Ann Catherine C1879) how/what do you know about John?

* When did Ellen die?

* Anything else?  ;D


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Re: Ellen Jones Glanmorfa Abererch(Llanarmon)
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 July 18 11:55 BST (UK) »
I've found her wedding on the parish records on the Y Ffor website,she married William Jones on 2/12/1876 and her father is Evan Jones broker.Ellen died on March 26th 1883 when she was 29 years old,a relative told me she died at John's birth,he was brought up by his grandparents at Abersoch.

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Re: Ellen Jones Glanmorfa Abererch(Llanarmon)
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 July 18 12:14 BST (UK) »
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"Y Glor" ? Don't know that one. What's the website link?

It's strange that William Jones brought up the 2x daughters but not his son?

William re-married Janet Williams . . . . .
1891 shows William, Janet, Mary, ann, Elizabeth (if you didn't know)

How did you identify her and get back to Lannarmon?

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Re: Ellen Jones Glanmorfa Abererch(Llanarmon)
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 July 18 12:32 BST (UK) »
yffor.com it's a local website which is very informative.I knew he remarried Janet,I've been speaking to her grandson last week.I'm puzzled how Ellen was born in Middlesex.

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Re: Ellen Jones Glanmorfa Abererch(Llanarmon)
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 July 18 13:19 BST (UK) »
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[ Yffor! That'll teach me to make notes without my glasses on!  ;D ]

What do you know about Evan?
Birth?

Do you know what he was a broker of? Cattle?Sheep? (as his father was a farmer)

Found him in 1851?
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Re: Ellen Jones Glanmorfa Abererch(Llanarmon)
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 July 18 15:40 BST (UK) »
Evan Jones was born on the 11th of June 1820 according to family search at Llanengan,I've no idea what he was a broker of,!He probably was not a farmer as he lived in  Middlesex when Ellen was born.Cannot find him in 1851!

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Re: Ellen Jones Glanmorfa Abererch(Llanarmon)
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 July 18 22:18 BST (UK) »
Hi

Evan Jones 1841 . . . . .

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Re: Ellen Jones Glanmorfa Abererch(Llanarmon)
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 July 18 22:36 BST (UK) »

Could Evan have been a "Draper" not "Broker", they look very similar handwritten.
In 1851 Llanarmon, if you trawl thru each page, there are one/two Jones who are in Drapery occupations, including an Evan.



There is also a farmer Evan with brother John as joint farmer.
 
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