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Information on The Smith Brothers Abercorn - Mbala Zambia
« on: Friday 06 July 18 13:34 BST (UK) »
Looking for information and pictures of Ronald Maskelyne Smith (farmer) and Lionel Henry Smith (transporter Smith, Kitchen and Hobson) original from Beaufort East, Bath, Walnut, County of Somerset, United Kingdom. They were settlers in the Abercorn area North of Zambia years -+ 1918 to -+ 1957.

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« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 July 18 17:40 BST (UK) »
Below is Ronald's birth record from the GRO

SMITH, RONALD  MASKELYNE     MASKELYNE     
GRO Reference: 1886  D Quarter in BATH  Volume 05C  Page 596   

Lionel's birth

SMITH, LIONEL  MASKELYNE     MASKELYNE     
GRO Reference: 1888  D Quarter in BATH  Volume 05C  Page 606


Parents marriage

Marriages Jun 1881
MASKELYNE    Madeline Mary        Bath    5c   979    
SMITH    Herbert George        Bath    5c   979
 
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 July 18 17:53 BST (UK) »
The 1891 census shows them with four children and four servants living at Apsey House, Avon Land, Batheaston, Bath, Somerset.  Two of the children are Ronald and Lionel.

Registration district   Bath
Archive reference   RG12
Piece number   1940
Folio   42
Page   12

The 1901 census shows mum and dad in the same place with their daughters, now three, but no sons.  I'll see if I can find the sons anywhere in 1901.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 July 18 18:07 BST (UK) »
Looks like Ronald is a boarder at a school in Hampshire.

Registration district   Christchurch

Piece number   1043
Folio   57
Page   20

I'll see if I can find Lionel.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 July 18 18:12 BST (UK) »
Lionel is a patient in Bath in 1901.

Registration district   Bath
Piece number   2343
Folio   76
Page   30

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 06 July 18 18:33 BST (UK) »
Not so far been able to trace them in the 1911 census nor can I find any record of them travelling to South Africa.

Do you have a date for their arrival in South Africa?

What information are you looking for?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Information on The Smith Brothers Abercorn - Mbala Zambia
« Reply #6 on: Monday 09 July 18 14:03 BST (UK) »
thanks for responding - I have no information on travel dates. Lieutenant Ronald Maskelyne Smith recovered from his wounds he was promoted to Temporary Captain and given the vital task of organizing porter transport in Northern Rhodesia, for which he was later awarded a Military Order of The British Empire. Lionel Maskelyne Smith was one of the founder with Jim Kitchen, P.K. Hobson and Joe Thatcher, of Smith and Kitchen and Thatcher and Hobson, the transport company which eventually became Central African Road Services .

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 September 18 12:51 BST (UK) »
Looking for information on Patricia Ogilvy who married my great grand father Ronald Maskelyne Smith and after his passing returned to the United Kingdom.  Patricia family would have more information and pictures and diaries of Ronald and Lionel Smith lives.