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Re: Thomas Wiilliams and Ann Jones married 1814 Llanfawr Emigrants?... son Benjamin?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 07 July 18 20:19 BST (UK) »
Delaware County, Ohio, Burial Index, 1784-2011 - shows Ann Williams burial 17 July 1848 - Radnor Cemetery. (no further information)

Benjamin and Phoebe were in Radnor Delawarein 1850

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https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Benjamin_Williams_%2864%29

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Re: Thomas Wiilliams and Ann Jones married 1814 Llanfawr Emigrants?... son Benjamin?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 07 July 18 20:21 BST (UK) »
Does it indicate a possible age for her?
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Re: Thomas Wiilliams and Ann Jones married 1814 Llanfawr Emigrants?... son Benjamin?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 07 July 18 20:33 BST (UK) »
No sorry, just an index with a poor link.

There is a RAOGK volunteer (Elleymae) in Franklin Ohio that may be able to look for an obituaries for Benjamin Williams at the local library. Sometimes these are well documented with information which may or may not prove the connection for you.

https://www.raogk.org/lookups/region/ohio/

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Re: Thomas Wiilliams and Ann Jones married 1814 Llanfawr Emigrants?... son Benjamin?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 07 July 18 20:45 BST (UK) »
There's an Ann Williams on the 1840 in Delaware co. but she's recorded as 20-30.

Only one showing there. 


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Re: Thomas Wiilliams and Ann Jones married 1814 Llanfawr Emigrants?... son Benjamin?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 07 July 18 20:50 BST (UK) »
Long Shot - Columbus Ward Franklin - Ann Williams - 1840


Home in 1840 (City, County, State):   Columbus Ward 1, Franklin, Ohio
Free White Persons - Males - 15 thru 19 -   1
Free White Persons - Females - 50 thru 59 -   1
Free White Persons - Under 20 -   1
Total Free White Persons:   2
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Coloured, Slaves -    2

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Re: Thomas Wiilliams and Ann Jones married 1814 Llanfawr Emigrants?... son Benjamin?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 07 July 18 20:55 BST (UK) »
Was just looking at that one. She's the only other Ann Williams listed in Ohio according to my listing, plus  three Nancys and many As
Benjamin would be 20-30 then. 

Ann and Thomas Williams are not the most unusual of names.


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Re: Thomas Wiilliams and Ann Jones married 1814 Llanfawr Emigrants?... son Benjamin?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 07 July 18 21:01 BST (UK) »
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Have a look at the Thomas Williams, Delaware, aged 40-50 in the 1840. He could fit with an 1814 marriage, maybe.

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Benjamin was my GGgrandfather via his son William Morrow Wiliams. You can view his data at https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LCTR-NL2. He emigrated to Delaware Co, Ohio in approx. 1833. I *might* have found the immigration record (and naturalization certificate from 1844), but Welsh males had only about 10 given names and no middle names, so there are multiple records of Benjamin Williamses and possible relatives all over the Internet. I have a possible record of Benjamin, Phoebe, and his son David showing his residence as Galena, Delaware Co, Ohio in the 1840 census. Unfortunately, that census only names the head of the household, but the ages and family composition at that time fit.

It's not clear to me that Thomas and Ann made the trip with Benjamin. I can't find anything definitive about their life or death in Ohio. I have been corresponding with an Alan Hughes in England, who is related to Ann Jones. Two items of interest:

1."Birth [of Benjamin] recorded in the records of Gyffilliog Calvinist Methodist Church, with parents as Thomas and Ann."

2. "I believe Benjamin's parents both died in the 3rd influenza epidemic that swept through much of the UK at that time, it lasted over 13 months! The social status determined the percentage chance you had of surviving, the poorer you were the less chance you had! The Williams family were historically of servant stock, we have historical evidence of them back to the 14th Century (but not a direct lineage at this point in time)."

Concerning the possible parentage of David Williams and Anne Powell, that is based in part on a brief bio of their son Ebenezer in "History of Delaware County and Ohio. Containing a brief history of the State of Ohio" (https://archive.org/stream/cu31924050611106/cu31924050611106_djvu.txt). I suspect that they *might* have been Benjamin's uncle and aunt, and that Benjamin emigrated with them, possibly after his parents died. But again, there were so many immigrant Williams males with the same name in those days, it's hard to pin down an association.

That's the best I can do for now.