McAvoy / Macken Kilkeel

[Half Pint]

Hi

Nicholas McAvoy and Ann Macken, my 3x gr grandparents were married on 24 Nov 1845 at Kilkeel before travelling to Egremont, Cumberland a few years later.  Sadly Nicholas died in a mining accident there in 1870 shortly before their 9th child was born.

Can anyone please help me take my research further back or suggest links that could help me in this endeavour.

Thank you

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[oldohiohome]

I guess you have the parish register, https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633230#page/93/mode/1up

Be glad they recorded it and you can read it.  A lot of my mother's family should be in here but I can't find them.

I was hoping the register would name the townland of the bride or groom, but it doesn't.

[oldohiohome]

Two baptisms if this is the same couple. You say they left a few years later.

August 27, 1863,
Edward, [son] of Nicholas McAvoy and Ann Mackin. sponsors Edward Hanna and Margaret Sloan. Ballymahall???

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633230#page/65/mode/1up


Aug 25, 1846, Pat [son] of Nicholas McEvoy and Ann Mackin
sponsors Betty McCory? and John McCrink?

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633230#page/23/mode/1up

Edward's record, in 1863, gives a location, but the best I can make of it is Ballynahall. I attached it, maybe someone else can read it. I can't find a reference to Ballynahall or Ballymahall in Kilkeel.

[hallmark]

Ballynahatten

https://www.logainm.ie/67006.aspx
??

[oldohiohome]

Ballynahatten

https://www.logainm.ie/67006.aspx
??

Thank you.

and there is a Nicholas McAvoy in Ballynahatten on Griffith's Valuation. But were they there that late?

[oldohiohome]

If you know they went straight to Egremont from Kilkeel, then this could be Ann, widowed, in 1871. The only problem is she says all the children but the oldest were born in Liverpool.

1871 on Rafferty Row, Egremont

Ann McEvoy, widow, 43, born in Ireland [b 1828]
Patrick 20, born in Ireland
Edward, 7, born in Liverpool
6 more children from Bridget at 3 months to Catherine at 18, all born in Liverpool

All the births match what you have told us so far, I assume Bridget is the child born after Nicholas died. If so, she was probably born in Egremont, correct? Which would make the other birth locations on the census suspect as well.

Which would mean that the two baptisms, Patrick and Edward, I posted earlier could be their children, assuming Nicholas and Ann were in Kilkeel until 1863. I didn't find them in 1861 in Egremont or 1871.

[BallyaltikilliganG]

quick start


Thr great Ros Davies starts the
archived website gives https://web.archive.org/web/20170430042758/http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com:80/~rosdavies/CHURCHES/K_W.htm#Kilkeel
McAVOY   family   Kilkeel   originally from Queens County , Leix   O'L V1 p4
Nicholas   McAVOY   .   Kilkeel    married Ann Macken 24 Nov 1845 at Massforth Catholic church   PR         
she gives St. Colman's Catholic Church Massforth, Ballymageogh Catholic Church- Upper Mourne 3km NW of Kilkeel on Rostrevor road
Baptisms & marriages are available from 1839; www.emeraldancestors.com has baptisms 1845-1863 with free indexes but pay-per-view for details.
Graveyard attached, gravestone inscriptions available UHF Vol 10, oldest grave 1810; UHF has baptisms 1837-1900 & marriages 1839-1900 & deaths 1869-1900


Tithes  that marriage date should have produced a parents name or two. without that I cant connect  to the 1830 records
Tithes Applotment Books  823-1837 based upon the work of the Irish Genealogy Hub’s
listing for each parish in Northern Ireland.  The relevant original books are in the
Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) Belfast

it’s a very simple one line entry which sometimes connects to Griffiths valuation


Macken also spelt many ways eg Mackan I didn’t check Mackin
Macken, Edward   Townland: Ballynahatton Year: 1830   Kilkeel   Down
Macken, Hugh   Townland: Ballynahatton Year: 1830   Kilkeel   Down
Macken, Stephen   Townland: Ballynahatton Year: 1830   Kilkeel   Down
the 3rd townland traveling sw on the coast from Kilkeel itself
Macken, Nicholas   Townland: Dunavill             Year: 1830   Kilkeel   Down
the 2nd townland traveling SW on the coast from Kilkeel itself


McAvoy, spelling in 6 townlands within only Kilkeel civil parish

McAvoy, Bernard   Townland: Attical Year: 1830   Kilkeel
McAvoy, Hugh   Townland: Attical Year: 1830   Kilkeel
McAvoy, Patrick   Townland: Attical Year: 1830   Kilkeel
a townland 3 townlandsnw upwards in middle mourne area the eastern townland neighbor of Ballymageough
McAvoy, Widow Nancy    T’land: Aughnaloopy Year: 1830   Kilkeel
atownland 2 up northwards from kilkeel.
McAvoy, Hugh   Townland: Aughrim Year: 1830   Kilkeel
a townland one closer than  Attical  &Ballymageough
McAvoy, James   Townland: Ballinran Year: 1830   Kilkeel
a townland neighbor to the east of Aughnaloopy
McAvoy, Hugh   Townland: Ballymageough Year: 1830   Kilkeel
McAvoy, James   Townland: Ballymageough Year: 1830   Kilkeel
right up in the mourne mountains 3 townlands north west of Kilkeel

[oldohiohome]

Ros Davies has her own site now, up and running:

http://www.rosdavies.com/

[Half Pint]

Wow,  I knew these lists were good but am still totally stunned by the help you've given me.  I do appreciate it.  I will need a couple of days to digest and investigate all the info and will come back to you all

Regards

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