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Offline AngelFish

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Name place help please, near Swineshead
« on: Monday 09 July 18 00:55 BST (UK) »
Please can anyone read what this place name is?

"Do (for Lincolnshire)  ?*******? near Swineshead"

It's the place of birth for Mary Miller, niece, age 12, living in Swineshead on the 1851 census.
Later census give her place of birth as Swineshead. Her baptism record in 1838 was at St Gilbert's Brothertoft, gives her abode as Brothertoft. They were in Swineshead in 1839 when her sister died and was buried.

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Re: Name place help please, near Swineshead
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 July 18 03:41 BST (UK) »
It's a tricky one AF. Ancestry has transcribed it as "Oxtrapa Parts Nr Mineshead" which I don't think is right. The second word could be 'parts' though. :-\

I can't make out the first letter at all - (in fact I can't see a capital letter). I think there is a letter showing through from the other side of the paper which is distracting.

What I think I can see is:
--trap (or ss ie a long s) and the last letter may be an e, a, o or s if the previous letter is a long s.  :-\


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Re: Name place help please, near Swineshead
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 July 18 03:50 BST (UK) »
Might it be Lincolnshire "in xxxxx parts nr Swineshead"? :-\

Added: I'm changing my mind about the second last letter being a p. It's like like any other ps on the page.

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Re: Name place help please, near Swineshead
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 July 18 05:39 BST (UK) »
I wonder if it wasn't a specific place name but intended to be something like Undisclosed Parts nr Swineshead :-\

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Re: Name place help please, near Swineshead
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 July 18 10:07 BST (UK) »
I wondered if it was 'unhabit parts near Swineshead'

unhabit meaning unhabited. But then I realised that should be unINhabited.
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Re: Name place help please, near Swineshead
« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 July 18 10:17 BST (UK) »
12 years old in 1851, baptised in 1838, is her birth on Free BMD?
Perhaps it would be benificial to see a larger part of the entry.


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Re: Name place help please, near Swineshead
« Reply #6 on: Monday 09 July 18 11:55 BST (UK) »
The entry above mentions Wigtoft, and I think this one is:

D[itt]o Extrapa[rochial] parts N[ea]r Swineshead

You can find a map of the area at
http://maps.familysearch.org/#?centerLat=52.906669?centerLng=-0.127943?zoom=13

Put Wigtoft in the search box, then search and zoom. If you click on the parish, it and its detached areas are highlighted in colour.

I'm a bit uncertain whether the census entry will be referring to these detached parts of Wigtoft or the other Extraparochial areas nearby, shown on the map with just coloured outlines. You can click on them for more information.

(Amended - see #8 below)
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Name place help please, near Swineshead
« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 July 18 12:31 BST (UK) »
The baptisms, indexed as Brotherstoft, state:

Child's Name: Mary Ann daughter
Parent Christian Name: -
Parent Surname: Brothertoft
Abode: Miller Illegitimate


Sarah Jean (Jane?) ditto

Burial - Sarah Jane of Swineshead

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Re: Name place help please, near Swineshead
« Reply #8 on: Monday 09 July 18 13:26 BST (UK) »
To amend my earlier post, I think the Do (Ditto) could be referring to Lincolnshire rather than specifically Wigtoft.

That would suggest she was born in one of the extraparochial areas I mentioned, in which case a baptism could have taken place at any convenient church.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk