Helen Taylor Elder

[smiddykilry]

Hi
Looking for information on Helen's mother Elizabeth Drummond father David Elder Helen was born in 1854 at Crieff according to census records.

Regards Smid

[ColC]

I could not find Helens birth record on SP but I note 2 trees on A….ty think that these are he parents below, although one thinks Ann is MacConnachie

DAVID   ELDER  married NN CONNACHER   30/12/1853   St Martins, Perth

Colin

[smiddykilry]

Hi Colin
Thanks for the reply, yes I have the 1861 census for that family in Forgandenny with Helen age 7 born Crieff  but on her marriage record her parents are recorded as David Elder and Elizabeth Drummond I know its the same David on the census and her sister Ann is a witness at the marraige of Helen and William Turner. 

Regards Smid

[smiddykilry]

Sorry, Helen Married William Turner 1878 Tibbermore 

Smid

[rosie17]

Sorry, Helen Married William Turner 1878 Tibbermore 

Smid

Was just going to ask where they were married as I could not find a marriage to a James Turner only the one for William Turner...Do you have the death certificate for Helen Taylor Elder other surname Turner 1915 Tibbermore Perthshire on SP to see if the same parents are mentioned

Rosie

[rosie17]

Hi
Looking for information on Helen's mother Elizabeth Drummond father David Elder Helen was born in 1854 at Crieff according to census records.

Regards Smid

Was her mother Elizabeth listed on the census for 1861..There is always a possibility she was illegitimate  ..Have you found her in 1871 census ?

Rosie

[ColC]

I note the 1861 and subsequent census returns. Do you know where Helen was in 1871?

ELDER   ANN   1861   29   1832   Dunning   Perth
ELDER   ANN   1861   1      Dunning   Perth
ELDER   HELEN   1861   7      Dunning   Perth
ELDER   JANET   1861   3      Dunning   Perth
ELDER   DAVID   1861   35   1826   Dunning   Perth

1871 family in Tibbermore David 46 Ann 41 + 5 boys and Ann 11, no Helen.

1881/91/01 David 54/64/75 in Tibbermore + Boys, no Ann senior Ann junior or Helen

DAVID  ELDER 82  death  1909 Perth?
No clear death for Ann?

Colin

[rosie17]

Found a Helen Elder born 1854 Perth Perthshire age 17 on the 1871 census address
3,South George Street St Andrews Angus working as a General domestic servant
Hard to say if this is her ?

Rosie

[smiddykilry]

Hi Rosie
I have Helen's death 1915 Tibbermore record parents recorded as David Elder Annie Grieg McConnachie informant son William.

Regards Smid