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Locate before marriage
« on: Thursday 12 July 18 16:12 BST (UK) »
help needed to locate before they married
marriage banns called 7/14/20 June, church marriage 10/7/1807.
between Richard Jones and Elizabeth Morgans both of this parish of Llanilar.
no other information from Ceredigion archives.
First child, Morgan baptised 15/3/1808 living at Cross inn,Rhostie (an area of Llanilar)
Richards occupation given as farmer.
Where did these people come from? help needed. many thanks
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Re: Locate before marriage
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 July 18 11:45 BST (UK) »
There is a Richard Jones, Farmer, Widower on the 1851 census in Llanilar.
He was born 1789 Lledrod, Cardiganshire. 6 of his children are present.

They are there also in 1841, plus Elizabeth, both age 50 (rounded down) Richard noted as a Wool Carder but most of the children as noted in 1851. All born in the county,

Anne Jones    27
William Jones    25
Lewis Jones    20
David Jones    15
John Jones    15
Elizabeth Jones    13
Mary Jones    6

Morgan and his wife Mary are in the area.

Elizabeth died between the two census records but more than one registration possible. The same for Richard who died after 1851.

There are several Jones baptism on Freereg at Llanilar but no marriages or burials.
On Freereg at Lledrod there are only burials.

Incidentally there is a Morgan Jones born 1789 Lledrod still there up to the 1871 census.


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Re: Locate before marriage
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 July 18 14:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks Colin, my Richard and Elizabeth moved to Fronuchaf,(farm).Cilcennin in the twenties, Richard died there in 1830,(buried Cilcennin). according to census Elizabeth was fourteen when she married Richard in Llanilar.   Stated that they were both of the parish of Llanilar, but of course that doesn't mean a lot. Richard states that he was a farmer, no other info on the wedding records.
i am stuck as to where to go from here.
in the will of Elizabeth she mentions a James Morgans nephew born in London
any help would be much appreciated
Trailor,Traylor.Jones. Morgans. Griffiths, Evans.

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Re: Locate before marriage
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 July 18 16:03 BST (UK) »
I note the burial record on Freereg which states Richard was 46 therefore born around 1784. An Elizabeth also buried there   9 Jun 1853, age 60 (1793) I presume from what you said that was her. I see her on the 1851 census at the farm you mention born Llanilar, Cardiganshire. Also at farm in 1841.

However I can not find any birth record for either, sorry I cannot help.

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Re: Locate before marriage
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 July 18 15:36 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Colin,
i will keep trying . Someone might direct me in the right direction. who knows.
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