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Irish relatives from Roscommon
« on: Thursday 12 July 18 22:36 BST (UK) »
Hi
I'm looking for relatives from Ireland. James McGreevy born about 1864 in Roscommon. This is only hearsay from family members i have not found proof yet that it was Roscommon. James married Bridget Loftus born 1870 Burslem. They married in 1893 in Wolstanton. On the marriage certificate his father James is deceased and was a labourer. James residence is given as 9 Mayers Bank Burslem. I don't know his mother's name.I don't know when he came to England or if his family came too.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Wendy

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Re: Irish relatives from Roscommon
« Reply #1 on: Friday 13 July 18 00:33 BST (UK) »
Of the six James McGreevy whose births were registered in a Roscommon district between 1864 and 1870 none had a father James.
If he was born before 1864 he won't have a birth cert in which case you would need a Baptisim, for that ideally you need to know where he came from, townland or parish and his religion of course.

Even if you do find a James with father James you can't be sure you have the correct one without more identifying information.
You can't fish on a empty stomach so give the man one or two records so he knows how good it tastes.

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Re: Irish relatives from Roscommon
« Reply #2 on: Friday 13 July 18 01:53 BST (UK) »
If you search below (free) for James McGreevy of Burslem, you will see his more specific birthplace mentioned in the 1911 census: 

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/1911-census-for-england-and-wales


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Re: Irish relatives from Roscommon
« Reply #3 on: Friday 13 July 18 06:51 BST (UK) »
Hi
I've found them on 1911 census at 17 May st Burslem. It says he was born in Creevy, Roscommon.
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Re: Irish relatives from Roscommon
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 July 18 06:37 BST (UK) »
Hi
They were Catholic but unfortunately that's about all i  know. There isn't anyone around now that has any more information.
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Re: Irish relatives from Roscommon
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 July 18 06:59 BST (UK) »
Creevy is in the RC parish of Loughglynn but there is a gap in Baptisims from April 1863 to January 1865
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0557

RootsIreland (Subscription) have 1817 to 1900 listed for the parish but it's possible they have the same gap.
http://roscommon.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=centres/roscommon/sources.tpl&selectedMenu=sources
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Re: Irish relatives from Roscommon
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 July 18 07:36 BST (UK) »
Griffith's Valuation shows only one potential name candidate in Creevy, a Winifred 'Greevy' (print date 1857):
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearch

Clutching at straws now, but my best guess is that IF there were any later siblings born there (Added: siblings to your James who married Bridget Loftus), they would have been registered at Ballaghadreen, Castlerea (though note that Creevy isn't far from the county border with Mayo) - anyway, there was the following 1865 birth of a son Michael to James 'Greavy' and Margaret Toolan of Creevy:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03549/2306369.pdf


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Re: Irish relatives from Roscommon
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 July 18 07:50 BST (UK) »
And there was the death of a James 'Greavy' of Creevy in 1891:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06068/4730150.pdf

The informant for the above registration was a daughter Catherine - this may have been her getting married in 1893 (added: note the Toolan witnesses):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1893/10591/5858433.pdf

There was also a Maria Greevy of Creevy (born c. 1854 with a father named James) who got married in 1881:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/10994/8019778.pdf

Edited to add: And a widow Margaret Greevy who died in 1903, Catherine was the informant again:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05659/4593214.pdf

In 1901: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Artagh_North/Creevy/1660484/

But I'm not yet getting a warm fuzzy feeling about any of this, it's just too speculative at this point.


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Re: Irish relatives from Roscommon
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 July 18 19:20 BST (UK) »
You could join Loughglynn parish on Ireland Reaching Out website and post an enquiry.
https://www.irelandxo.com