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Evan Davies of St. Martins, Shropshire.
« on: Saturday 14 July 18 14:50 BST (UK) »
My g.g.grandfather Evan Davies was born about 1815, and according to the census he was born in St. Martins, Shropshire. He married Mary Woolam in Ellesmere, in 1837. He had 6 children, the eldest of whom was William born 1838, in St. Martins. In 1861 he was a lay preacher and coal mine owner. I would like to find his ancestors, but no Evan is in the St. Martins's PR of a suitable date. As he was a lay preacher he was probably baptised in a non-conformist church. The only baptism of an Evan of a suitable date I have been able to find is non-conformist  in Holywell, the son of William, a miner of Moel y Crea, Halkin, on the. 25 February, 1815
Evan named his eldest son William, suggesting this was his father's name. There was a William Davies in the 1841 and 1851 censuses, married to Ann, born in Whittington, who would fit, but he was a carpenter. Could a miner become a carpenter?
I'd appreciate suggestions for Evan's parents.

Don Tomkinson

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Re: Evan Davies of St. Martins, Shropshire.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 July 18 15:06 BST (UK) »
Hi

I've searched all the surrounding parishes in Shropshire and Denbighshire but, so far, I don't see a baptism either in the C of E records or the available non-c records.

I'm not sure if the St Martins n-c  records survived  :-\

The online searches throw up a lot of Johns but I don't think these are really relevant in this case. Most of my Evan ancestors from that area (I have a long line of them!) were never names/known as John.

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(re your last thread - pity it wasn't the Evan and Jane, as the Jane was my relative and I could have helped with info!)
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Re: Evan Davies of St. Martins, Shropshire.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 July 18 15:34 BST (UK) »
Had to do a bit of googling;

The border village and civil parish of St Martin's is in Shropshire, England, just north of Oswestry and east of Chirk.

Have you ruled out the on christened 2 May 1813   Oswestry,  to JOHN/JANE?
(Familysearch.Org)

FreeREG also has 2 Evan DAVIS Baptisms in Chirk;
16 Jan 1814 to JOHN/MARGARET, Father a Collier
30 Jan 1814 to EDWARD/SARAH, Father a Collier
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Re: Evan Davies of St. Martins, Shropshire.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 July 18 15:54 BST (UK) »


FreeREG also has 2 Evan DAVIS Baptisms in Chirk;
16 Jan 1814 to JOHN/MARGARET, Father a Collier
30 Jan 1814 to EDWARD/SARAH, Father a Collier

 ???

They Didn't come up on my Freereg searches - must have not selected soundex!

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Re: Evan Davies of St. Martins, Shropshire.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 July 18 15:57 BST (UK) »
The first one was abode Pontfaen which was in St Martin's parish!
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Re: Evan Davies of St. Martins, Shropshire.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 July 18 16:03 BST (UK) »
I'm glad you picked that up extra info up Gadget :)

I tried without and then with soundex.
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Re: Evan Davies of St. Martins, Shropshire.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 July 18 16:09 BST (UK) »
The other one (abode Park Gate) was married to one of my  ancestral cousins - a Jane Parry  ;D
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Re: Evan Davies of St. Martins, Shropshire.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 July 18 16:27 BST (UK) »
This might be John and Margaret in 1841:

HO107/1399/4/11/7

Pentre Gelli, Chirk

John Davies,  45, coal miner
Margaret, 45
Elizabeth, 15
Tamar, 7
Thomas, 12

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Re: Evan Davies of St. Martins, Shropshire.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 July 18 16:49 BST (UK) »
Not sure now - all the children on the 1841 were b. in the Pentre/Penyclawdd area of Chirk Parish which is to the opposite end of the parish to Pontfaen/St Martins;  on the boundary of the Ruabon/Llangollen and Chirk parish. This is the same area as their address on the 1841.

They could have moved between Evan and Elizabeth's births but not sure  :-\

Gadget

Added -  further checking

John and Msrgaret are still in the same area on the 1851 - HO107/1993/790/9

John, 60, coal miners labourer, b. Chirk
Margaret, 58, b. Llangefni, Anglesey
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