Baker of Willenhall

[Pennines]

Emeltom == I suspect this should be Henry Butler and Louisa Baker. (Though I could be wrong! I often am.)

[emeltom]

Yes, that's the only marriage I can find and the register entry definitely says Butler. However I am still rather confused. If Henry Taylor is the brother of a direct ancestor how come his daughter is a gt gt grandmother or have I missed something?

Emeltom

[angel~eyes]

Henry is definantly Harriets Father and on her brothers birth cert it says Henry and Louisa Taylor (nee Baker). It's the 1861/1871 census has Harriet as their daughter. My sister says the marriage between Henry and Louisa was on 31st May 1852 at St Giles church M

[angel~eyes]

Harriet is the direct ancestor confirmed I now need to confirm Henry Taylor and Louisa Baker M

[Pennines]

Emeltom --- I  know. I am confused as well.

However the birth Reg was definitely for Harriet Taylor with a mother's maiden name of Baker.

It's the marriage on FindMyPast which was a Henry Butler to Louisa Baker. Her father on that marriage was George Baker - so the Baker family in 1841 are a possibility as the mother was a Harriett (mis-spelt)

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that it was a wrong surname on the marriage I suppose.

On the 1861 Census - Henry Taylor's occupation of 'Jobbing Smith' is identical to Henry Butler's occupation on the marriage certificate -also Jobbing Smith. In 1861 Louisa is shown as 10 years younger than Henry - at 26. If 4 in 1841 was her correct age -- this is slightly 'out'.

In addition checking one of the other children's births for Henry Taylor and Louisa - the maiden name is Baker, I strongly suspect now that the surname for Henry may be wrong on the marriage cert and should be Taylor.

[emeltom]

The image of the marriage entry definitely says Butler as does the image of the GRO register and I agree that all the children are Taylor with mmn Baker, so obviously an error has crept in. However I still do not understand why, if Henry Taylor is the brother of a direct ancestor, how he can be the father of a gt gt grandmother, also a direct ancestor.

Emeltom

[angel~eyes]

If the surname is wrong on the  marriage maybe it is why we couldn't find him I may need to look at Henry's parents maybe his mother was a Butler M

[angel~eyes]

Henry is my direct Ancestors father not her brother. I have confirmed Harriet but not Henry as yet so he is only a potential direct ancestor. It was one of Harriets brothers gave us Louisa maiden name M

[angel~eyes]

The brother of Harriet is James and his parents are Henry Taylor and Louisa Baker - they are confirmed as James parents but not as Harriets yet M