Smith Murray and Sinclair confusion

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1851
William son 18 b Rathven unmarried
William Smith grson 6 m b Rathven
William Flett grson 9 b Rathven

William is very prominent in the family, it would be interesting to know the names of the other family to compare as well as who the informant was on George's death which may even give the informant's address?

Annie

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Not sure if this is any help? but...

1855 VRs (they only start from 1855)

SMITH GEORGE
Proprietor Occupier
DWELLING HOUSE FINDOCHTY, RATHVEN
VR009100001-

2 others named George at PETERHYTHE, Rathven & PORTESSIE, Rathven

All gone by 1865 

However, it's other places to look for the other family possibly?

Annie

[Wendy2305]

Ann possibly in 1861in Rathven Address 3 Peterhayth & Porteasie
Visitor in the house of
John McTosh 42
Margaret wife 54
Ann Smith 67 Whitefisher's widow

All born Rathven

[Wendy2305]

The George and Margaret Smith family
Margaret b 1810
Alexander b 1811
Big gap
Jane b 1820
John b 1822
William b 1824
Helen b 1825
Ann b 1828
Elspet b 1830

Possibly the family in 1841 no George and looks like head of the house is John b 1822
From Freecen

Address Porteasy Rathven
John 15 Whitefisher
Margaret 45
Helen 15
Ann 12
Elspet 9
James 20 Whitefisher
George 15 Whitefisher

All born Banff

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Just having a quick look at the names of family (2), I would envisage they may well be related, possibly cousins at least but I don't think they're the family we are looking for?

I may be wrong but it looks as though George (Snr) may already be deceased 

Is Margaret (aged 45) a widow in 1841?

Annie

[Wendy2305]

I may be wrong but it looks as though George (Snr) may already be deceased 

Is Margaret (aged 45) a widow in 1841?

Annie

Don't think that was noted on the 1841 census certainly nothing on the Freecen transcription

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Wendy,

Your info. has been very helpful but I think the 'key' here is the informant on the DC for George in 1858 to see if it gives any clues as anything else now would be pure speculation.

Just read your last post!

Depending on who the informant of the death was, if it was a neighbour or other then Alanna may have to purchase the original for 'Margaret' in 1841 I think?

I'm pretty sure it normally states on the original what the status was but looking at the fact the son is 'Head' would suggest she's a widow (I think) 

Annie

[Wendy2305]

Wendy,

Your info. has been very helpful but I think the 'key' here is the informant on the DC for George in 1858 to see if it gives any clues as anything else now would be pure speculation.

Just read your last post!

Depending on who the informant of the death was, if it was a neighbour or other then Alanna may have to purchase the original for 'Margaret' in 1841 I think?

I'm pretty sure it normally states on the original what the status was but looking at the fact the son is 'Head' would suggest she's a widow (I think) 

Annie

Agreed I think Margaret was a widow in 1841 also can't find her in 1851 so possibly died or emigrated as noticed on Ancestry somebody had linked a photo to an Elspet Fling Smith in Australian records I noticed that in the op called George Smith George Fling Smith

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Agreed then on the DC being the 'key' i.e. we await the reply from Alanna to hopefully give her the confirmation she needed 

Annie