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Re: looking for any family member with the surname 'HOLY'
« on: Sunday 22 July 18 09:17 BST (UK) »
I have ask some questions about jeremiah holy. holey. I was wondering if anyone can tell me about Jonathan B Were. I know he brought people out on different ships. One ship was the MARY NIXON. I had my great grandparents on this ship but I can't found out what work they, how long they had to work for him.
JEREMIAH HOLY,
SWINNERTON, AH TUE, STROGLER, BOCK, ACCOLA, CLARE, CASTLE, OWEN,SCHAECHE,ROBINSON,JONES,SMITH,CLARKE,BARRY,SHAW,WAY,
SCHMIDT, HOLLINGWORTH,MATER,BALCOMB,ASHWELL

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Re: looking for any family member with the surname 'HOLY'
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 July 18 12:53 BST (UK) »
There is some information about Jonathan Binns WERE here:

http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/were-jonathan-binns-2783

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Re: looking for any family member with the surname 'HOLY'
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 July 18 15:57 BST (UK) »
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: looking for any family member with the surname 'HOLY'
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 July 18 11:48 BST (UK) »
There must have had special jobs to do when they came out, and numbers of years to do it. So what sort of work would they had to do
JEREMIAH HOLY,
SWINNERTON, AH TUE, STROGLER, BOCK, ACCOLA, CLARE, CASTLE, OWEN,SCHAECHE,ROBINSON,JONES,SMITH,CLARKE,BARRY,SHAW,WAY,
SCHMIDT, HOLLINGWORTH,MATER,BALCOMB,ASHWELL

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Re: looking for any family member with the surname 'HOLY'
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 July 18 15:21 BST (UK) »
It may be an idea to give us info. & dates on what you already have, from where they arrived in Aus. etc. to help with your questions as there's no info. attached in your original post with any clues to anything you know?

Annie
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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

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Re: looking for any family member with the surname 'HOLY'
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 25 July 18 01:49 BST (UK) »
 :)

The digitised image of the passenger list
http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?series=NRS5316&item=4_4814&ship=Mary%20Nixon   arriving Port Phillip, 30 Novwember 1841

At page 3, in alphabetical order by surname, the list of Unmarried Males:
 Jeremiah HOLEY is noted as aged 23, a labourer, Roman Catholic, can read and write, from Cork, and the bounty is £19

At page 4, in alphabetical order by surname, the list of Unmarried Females:
Elizabeth BARRY is noted as aged 26, a housemaid, Roman Catholic, can read and write, from Cork and the bounty is £19

You will notice that basically all those bounty emigrants were per Mr Jonathan B WERE.

Shipping announcement
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/226510803  Port Phillip Patriot & Melbourne Advertiser  2 December 1841 

At NSW BDM thereís the following marriage indexed:
1843
Volume 93, Line 2236, and the district as LR.
Jeremiah HOLY and Elizabeth BARRY.
https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/tracing-your-family-tree.aspx
https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx

This is from the era prior to civil registration, and there will likely be scant information on the registration, so it is UNLIKELY to give information about their origins or their parents.
 https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/registry-records.aspx

LR is NSW BDM code for :  St Francis Roman Catholic, Melbourne, Victoria.
https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/early-church-codes.aspx

Victoria was not hived off from the colony of New South Wales until 1851, so thatís why the passenger list for the Mary Nixon is found at NSW archives and the marriage is found at NSW BDM.   Likely there will be similar records held by Victoriaís archives and bdm.   
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Victoria


Info re the Bounty system.

http://www.roosen.com.au/Background/Bounty_System.html

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/immigration-shipping-guide 

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Re: looking for any family member with the surname 'HOLY'
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 25 July 18 02:12 BST (UK) »
Why emigrants?

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/92677138 13 Feb 1841

Convictism had effectively ceased to NSW in 1840, so they needed population from free sources instead.


https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/228246234 16 Jan 1841 Free Press

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2553656 19 June 1841 Sydney Gazette

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12872577  2 December 1841 Sydney Herald

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Re: looking for any family member with the surname 'HOLY'
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 25 July 18 02:36 BST (UK) »
https://openresearch-repository.anu.edu.au/bitstream/1885/132075/2/b1015128x_Shultz_Robert_Joe_Vol1.pdf

over 200 pages re bounty scheme immigrants 1837-1850 including to Port Phillip district.

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Re: looking for any family member with the surname 'HOLY'
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 25 July 18 06:00 BST (UK) »
Are you only looking for early information about Jeremiah HOLEY?

You may already have some of this, and I don't want to search further if you have this information. I'm assuming that this is your man.

Applied for renewal of hotel licence, April 1855
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/91861978

I see a mention on TROVE of the death of his son in Geelong, June 1857.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/154821269

Insolvent 1859
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/146566820

He seems to have been in the Geelong area but I couldn't see any mentions in the 1840s

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