David and James Johnstone - Gretna

[nenepops]

Hello there,
I have a James and David Johnstone b1832 Gretna. I think David died 1912 Langholm.
I think their mother was Elizabeth Clarke and father John Johnstone?
Just trying to find more information on them please.

[ColC]

Parents John  JOHNSTONE  & Betty Clarke

DAVID  MILLAR & JAMES MILLAR JOHNSTONE baptised Gretna  on the same day 5/06/1832

1851 Cadgil, Half Morton, Dumfriesshire - The father and sons were cotton weavers.

John Johnston    41
Elizabeth Johnston    52
David Johnston    18
James Johnston    13?

Colin

[MonicaL]

Colin, there are also two entries for christenings of sons David and James on 5 June 1832 at Gretna, to parents John J and Betty Clarke.

nenepops, what more info do you have on them that would help? Have you checked the David Johnstone death in 1912 to confirm his details?

Monica

[MonicaL]

There is this transcript census entry from 1851. Everyone showing as born in Gretna:

John Johnston 41 weaver cotton
Elizabeth Johnston 52
David Johnston 18 weaver cotton
James Johnston 13 weaver cotton

Address: Cadgil, Half Morton Dumfriesshire

1841 on FreeCen has David and James as both aged 9 with the family living at Springfield Village in the Gretna area. 1851 ages look to be wrong for James.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Possible entry for David and new family in 1861. This David showing as married to an Elizabeth Jardine (from children's birth entries on Family Search):

David Johnston 28 cotton weaver b. Gretna
Elizabeth Johnston 30 b. Annan, Dumfriesshire
James Johnston 5
John Johnston 3
Mary E Johnston 9 Months
James Jardine 24 boarder b. Hoddom, Dumfriesshire

Address: Springfield, Graitney

in 1871, the family show as living in the High Street, Langholm. Baby Mary Elizabeth may have died, two younger daughters show as Janet 7 and Elizabeth 2.

Jumping a few censuses to 1901, David and wife Elizabeth are living by themselves at 26 Caroline Street in Langholm. David showing as a pattern weaver.

Monica

[nenepops]

I have David Johnstone death 1912 Rosevale Street, Langholm.
I have his mother as Elizabeth Clarke b1799 Gretna

[MonicaL]

Possible 1861 entry for James:

Mary Scott 64
Gilbert Scott 32
Mary Scott 23
James Johnston 28 son in law cotton weaver b. Gretna

Address: Rigg, Graitney

Can't easily see anything further for this couple so far....

Monica

[nenepops]

Parents John  JOHNSTONE  & Betty Clarke

DAVID  MILLAR & JAMES MILLAR JOHNSTONE baptised Gretna  on the same day 5/06/1832

1851 Cadgil, Half Morton, Dumfriesshire - The father and sons were cotton weavers.

John Johnston    41
Elizabeth Johnston    52
David Johnston    18
James Johnston    13?

Colin


I wonder where the middle name Millar came from then?

[ColC]

The 1851 transcrition for James age 13 is wrong. He and David are both noted as age 18 on SP.

Colin