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Offline CelticMom

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Anyone good at reading old handwriting from a will dated 1736?
« on: Sunday 22 July 18 16:53 BST (UK) »
I have a will and testament of an ancestor of mine Henry Elmore of Stepney - dated 1736 on ancestry.  but I am struggling to decipher the handwriting and would love to know exactly what it says. I can work out some words, but not all of it.

Thank you in advance

edit: meant to post this in the Middlesex forum, but it's posted here for some reason.

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=5111&h=602645&tid=120222101&pid=152023735463&hid=1002117092158&usePUB=true&_phsrc=hyD14&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true
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Re: Anyone good at reading old handwriting from a will dated 1736?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 July 18 17:30 BST (UK) »
The link just invited me to join Ancestry!
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Re: Anyone good at reading old handwriting from a will dated 1736?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 July 18 21:21 BST (UK) »
One of the forums on here is Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition and they will likely be able to decipher it.

I tried but could only get bits of it.    He left everything or almost everything to his beloved wife Charity and appointed her executrix.  If she passed he left it to his son but I cannot make out his son's first name.  I think they had property at some place called Hi Hill or something like that.

There is also a paragraph about a parish but I cannot read it at all so perhaps the forum in Roots Web noted above would be the best.
 To access  that link you gave  you have to be a Ancestry member and log in

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Re: Anyone good at reading old handwriting from a will dated 1736?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 July 18 22:19 BST (UK) »
He left a "tenement or cottage with its yards and appurtenacies" in the parish of St Margarets, Ipswich to his wife Charity. It was formerly in the tenure of Simon Hutchinson and now of widow Brett. After his wife's death it is to go to his son, Henry. He leaves the remainder of his estate to his wife. The probate notes that Charity died before him and son Henry was granted administration of the will. It also notes that he was a pensioner of the Royal Hospital, Greenwich. The will notes that the testator was a mariner of the parish of Stepney, Middlesex
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Re: Anyone good at reading old handwriting from a will dated 1736?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 July 18 22:48 BST (UK) »
One of the forums on here is Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition and they will likely be able to decipher it.

 To access  that link you gave  you have to be a Ancestry member and log in

Just to say that if you have other wills (or other documents) to decipher, the Handwriting Deciphering board is the place to put them. Transcribers  may not look through all the other boards on here to spot something that needs looking at.
As Jim says, if you go via a link, it means you have to be an Ancestry member - not everyone is.  :)
So you may not be reaching the widest possible audience who may be able to help.
If you want an exact transcription of the will of Henry Elmore, why not post a section of it on the Handwriting Board, and I'm sure somebody will be able to transcribe it for you. Just be aware you are not supposed to put whole documents up - that would contravene Rootschat copyright policy.
But you can post 'chunks'.
Good luck!
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Re: Anyone good at reading old handwriting from a will dated 1736?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 July 18 23:33 BST (UK) »
thank you so much, everyone, for your help in working out the will. Your input is really appreciated.

I noticed the deciphering forum just after posting this, so will definitely be using that in future.


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Paterson - Canongate, Midlothian
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Re: Anyone good at reading old handwriting from a will dated 1736?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 July 18 23:35 BST (UK) »
One of the forums on here is Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition and they will likely be able to decipher it.

 To access  that link you gave  you have to be a Ancestry member and log in

Just to say that if you have other wills (or other documents) to decipher, the Handwriting Deciphering board is the place to put them. Transcribers  may not look through all the other boards on here to spot something that needs looking at.
As Jim says, if you go via a link, it means you have to be an Ancestry member - not everyone is.  :)
So you may not be reaching the widest possible audience who may be able to help.
If you want an exact transcription of the will of Henry Elmore, why not post a section of it on the Handwriting Board, and I'm sure somebody will be able to transcribe it for you. Just be aware you are not supposed to put whole documents up - that would contravene Rootschat copyright policy.
But you can post 'chunks'.
Good luck!

thanks for your tips. I didn't want to post the entire image due to copyright hence the link, but it's useful knowing I can post parts.
Anderson & Marr - Midlothian & East Lothian
Bennett - Devonport
Catleugh & Shiells - East Lothian
Cullen & Dowling - Waterford, Ireland
Littlejohns - Plymouth & London
Mansfield - Benfleet & St Pancras
Michelin - London
Newlands - Midlothian & Fife
Paterson - Canongate, Midlothian
Paulin - Northumberland
Rutherford - Roxburghshire
Taylor - East Lothian & Berwickshire
Thomson - Leith & Muthill
Thorney - Herefordshire
Small - Northumberland
Varrall - Kent

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Re: Anyone good at reading old handwriting from a will dated 1736?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 July 18 23:36 BST (UK) »
He left a "tenement or cottage with its yards and appurtenacies" in the parish of St Margarets, Ipswich to his wife Charity. It was formerly in the tenure of Simon Hutchinson and now of widow Brett. After his wife's death it is to go to his son, Henry. He leaves the remainder of his estate to his wife. The probate notes that Charity died before him and son Henry was granted administration of the will. It also notes that he was a pensioner of the Royal Hospital, Greenwich. The will notes that the testator was a mariner of the parish of Stepney, Middlesex

That ties in with everything I have, so I am pretty sure this is indeed my ancestor now. So interesting when you find pieces like that like, especially going back so far.
Anderson & Marr - Midlothian & East Lothian
Bennett - Devonport
Catleugh & Shiells - East Lothian
Cullen & Dowling - Waterford, Ireland
Littlejohns - Plymouth & London
Mansfield - Benfleet & St Pancras
Michelin - London
Newlands - Midlothian & Fife
Paterson - Canongate, Midlothian
Paulin - Northumberland
Rutherford - Roxburghshire
Taylor - East Lothian & Berwickshire
Thomson - Leith & Muthill
Thorney - Herefordshire
Small - Northumberland
Varrall - Kent