Walsh, Clonmel. Brazier and Tinsmith

[Ray_Howard]

Hi. Looking for some information on the Walsh family of Braziers and Tinsmiths from Clonmel.

Great-Great Granddad was John Walsh of Phelan's Lane, Clonmel, a Brazier and Tinsmith according to a Clonmel Trade Directory of the 1840's.

His son was Joseph Walsh also a Brazier born 1858 and his son, My Grandfather James Walsh is shown as being born in Clonmel Workhouse in 1887.

I would like to try to trace the reason why he was born in the workhouse. Did the business fail? Joseph was married to Anne Cummins and they moved to Limerick, between 1887 and 1890, as the next son is shown on the 1901 census of Limerick as being 11 years old and born in Limerick.

So can anyone help through either Walsh or Cummins.

[hallmark]

Hi. Looking for some information on the Walsh family of Braziers and Tinsmiths from Clonmel.

Great-Great Granddad was John Walsh of Phelan's Lane, Clonmel, a Brazier and Tinsmith according to a Clonmel Trade Directory of the 1840's.

His son was Joseph Walsh also a Brazier born 1858 and his son, My Grandfather James Walsh is shown as being born in Clonmel Workhouse in 1887.

I would like to try to trace the reason why he was born in the workhouse. Did the business fail? Joseph was married to Anne Cummins and they moved to Limerick, between 1887 and 1890, as the next son is shown on the 1901 census of Limerick as being 11 years old and born in Limerick.

So can anyone help through either Walsh or Cummins.

It was probably a hospital by then............

[hallmark]

"By November 1849, with increasing and indeed intolerable pressures on the institution and its inmates, consideration was given to the construction of a new Workhouse. Following studies by sub-committees and inspection of prospective sites, “five fields contiguous to each other adjoining the Model School,” were purchased.

This land was servicd by the newly-constructed Western Road, then known as Jones’s Road, after the engineer who designed it. By 10th October 1853, the first inmates were admitted to his new building, a building which was ultimately to become St. Joseph’s Hospital....."

http://www.from-ireland.net/from-workhouse-modern-hospital-tipperary/

[aghadowey]

Lots of information on Clonmel Workhouse here, too-
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Clonmel/

[Maggsie]

Ray,
Below are 4 links
1, is the birth of James On the birth although he was born in "The Workhouse", it states they were living in Queen Street.
As by that time it would have ben the hospital as hallmark said. His occupation was a Tinsmith.
2, The marriage of Joseph and Anne.
3, 1901 Census
4, 1911 Census

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02557/1945896.pdf

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/10995/8020150.pdf

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000996556/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002753233/

Maggsie

[Ray_Howard]

Ray,
Below are 4 links
1, is the birth of James On the birth although he was born in "The Workhouse", it states they were living in Queen Street.
As by that time it would have ben the hospital as hallmark said. His occupation was a Tinsmith.
2, The marriage of Joseph and Anne.
3, 1901 Census
4, 1911 Census

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02557/1945896.pdf

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/10995/8020150.pdf

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000996556/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002753233/

Maggsie

Many thanks for that, my main enquiry was to see if they were forced to move to Limerick or not due to hardship, as they lived in the tenements at Custom House and Arthur's Quay, where my mother was born
Ray