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Did John Henry do a runner ?
« on: Saturday 28 July 18 14:59 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help with this , John Henry   was running pubs in the 1890s
 In 1901 he is in Wellington, as a accountant and brewers agent

1891 Wrexham
John Henry Wilde  29 b Shropshire
 Emily Wilde  wife  28
 Wm E Wilde  3
 John H Wilde  1

1901 Wellington England
John Henry Wilde  39 b Shropshire
 Emily Wilde  38
 William Edwin Wilde  13
 Lily Wilde  8
 Thomas Herbert Wilde  6
 Frederick Arthur Wilde  5

Emily is still alive in Wellington 1911 saying she is married.  A daughter Frances Emily aged 9 is the only one with her. Emily  is thought to have died in 1912.

Now I found this on a family tree, Alice is Alice Boddington born 26/09/1865 England
Death 14/02/1948 Montréal Montréal , she may have been on the same passenger list as John Henry  in 1904 and 1910 but I can`t find her.

These seem to be the same children from the marriage to Emily   except Reginald who hasn`t been found.
1911 Canada  Census.
John Henry Wilde chef b Oct 1862
Alice b sep 1871
Thomas b  sept 1895 
Frederick b sept 1896
Reginald b oct  1890
Lilian 1893

Did John Henry actually marry Alice , where was Reginald fit in. It`s quite intriguing.

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Re: Did John Henry do a runner ?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 July 18 15:26 BST (UK) »
Perhaps Reginald was born to Alice before she met John?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Did John Henry do a runner ?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 July 18 15:42 BST (UK) »
Having now looked at it, I see that Reginald is Reginald Phillips in the 1911 Canada census - and his relationship to the head of household John Henry Wilde is “Aucune” (none).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Did John Henry do a runner ?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 July 18 15:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks, that's that sorted then.
 Now I need to find the  link to Alice .
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Re: Did John Henry do a runner ?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 July 18 15:53 BST (UK) »
Just spotted that Reginald arrived in Canada in 1909, the others in 1904, he is also English but I can`t find a birth.  Also I think now that chef is actually head of the house. This is the first census I`ve ever seen in  French .
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Re: Did John Henry do a runner ?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 July 18 15:55 BST (UK) »
Just spotted that Reginald arrived in Canada in 1909, the others in 1904, he is also English but I can`t find a birth.  Also I think now that chef is actually head of the house. This is the first census I`ve ever seen in  French .

Is John Henry  a constable ?
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Re: Did John Henry do a runner ?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 July 18 16:01 BST (UK) »
This may be Reginald in 1922 but I  don`t have worldwide access .

Reginald Phillipps/   Jean /city, Lisgar, Manitoba abt 1890 England 
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Re: Did John Henry do a runner ?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 July 18 16:01 BST (UK) »
Just spotted that Reginald arrived in Canada in 1909, the others in 1904, he is also English but I can`t find a birth.  Also I think now that chef is actually head of the house. This is the first census I`ve ever seen in  French .

Is John Henry  a constable ?

No - “Comptable” (French for accountant).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Did John Henry do a runner ?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 July 18 16:04 BST (UK) »
That's him then , same occupation as back in England.

1921
Alice Wilde /  John / city, Montreal (Ste Anne), Quebec abt 1865
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