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How can I trace a death in 1830s?
« on: Sunday 29 July 18 17:13 BST (UK) »
Hello,
My Gt Gt Gt Gt Grandfather lived in Alloa, Clackmannanshire and went to Edinburgh on business and was found dead in an Edinburgh street the following morning. Fatally attacked and robbed.

I know the month and year of death but cannot find it on LDS Family Search or Scotspeople or National Archives of Scotland  or Ancestry.co.uk or by googling newspapers online.
I know that Scotland did not have coroners inquests at the time.

Can anyone point me in the right direction to finding further details and confirming details?

Many thanks.
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Re: How can I trace a suspicious death in 1830s?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 July 18 17:18 BST (UK) »
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I know the month and year of death

From what document?
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Re: How can I trace a suspicious death in 1830s?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 29 July 18 17:20 BST (UK) »
Was it George in 1832?

If so, there's a description of injuries in papers in June 1832. Watch and money gone. Body returned to home village for burial.
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Re: How can I trace a suspicious death in 1830s?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 July 18 17:48 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your replies.

Thank you StanleysChesterton.
Spot on, you have the correct person. Thank you.
May I ask what newspapers you found please?
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Re: How can I trace a suspicious death in 1830s?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 July 18 18:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your replies.

Thank you StanleysChesterton.
Spot on, you have the correct person. Thank you.
May I ask what newspapers you found please?
Two events were covered.  Reports of the body found, then a week later reports of his injuries.  Newspapers include:

Edinburgh Evening Courant. 26 May
Morning Post, London. 29 May
Fife Herald. 31 May
Cheltenham Chronicle. 31 May
Warwick and Warwickshire Advertiser. 2 June
Newcastle Chronicle. 2 June
Bell's Weekly Messenger. 3 June & 4 June
Hampshire Telegraph. 4 June
Gore's Liverpool General Advertiser. 7 June


Related to: Lots of people!
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Mostly Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, some Kent and Dorset.
 
Elizabeth Long/Elizabeth Wilson/Elizabeth Long Wilson, b 1889 Caxton - where are you?
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Seeking: death year/location of Albert Edward Morgan, born Cambridge 1885/86 to Hannah & Edward Morgan of 33 Cambridge Place.
WW1 soldier, service number 8624, 2nd battalion, Highland Light Infantry.

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Re: How can I trace a suspicious death in 1830s?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 July 18 20:42 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for this information.
Greatly appreciated.
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Re: How can I trace a death in 1830s?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 07:20 GMT (UK) »
I know that Scotland did not have coroners inquests at the time.
Or at any other time. There are no coroners in Scotland, and inquests do not exist in Scots Law.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: How can I trace a death in 1830s?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 31 January 19 12:25 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the information and for replying.
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