Author Topic: George J Brown - possible US Immigrant?  (Read 1047 times)

Offline alan o

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 726
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
George J Brown - possible US Immigrant?
« on: Sunday 29 July 18 19:23 BST (UK) »
I am trying to trace George James Brown b.Ludchurch, Weston near Haverfordwest in Wales 1850 who was married to Catherine Mortimer d.1893

He son George Mortimer Brown emigrated to Boston in 1894 and lived there and in New York with his wife Mary,  He returned to Wales in 1900 and 1907.  His brother Osborne came back with him in 1907.

Their father was living in Llanelly in 1901 with another brother, Albert.  He then disappears and it's possible that he also emigrated to the US.

Where should I start looking for him?

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 58,702
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: George J Brown - possible US Immigrant?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 July 18 19:35 BST (UK) »
This is the family in 1891 - The Quay Milford Pembrokeshire Wales

George Brown   39 Catherine M Brown   46
Cathermer I Brown   11 Oarako P Brown   8
Benjamin M Brown   7 Albert M Brown   5
Osborne Brown   3

1901 census Llanelly Wales

RG13 Piece 5088 Folio 42 Page 31

George Jas Brown   49
Albert M Brown   14

Birth Record - Albert Mortimer Brown - Q3 - 1886 Haverfordwest Pembrokeshire - 11a 995



Sandra

"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 58,702
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: George J Brown - possible US Immigrant?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 29 July 18 19:40 BST (UK) »
Your ancestry tree shows Albert Mortimer Brown married in 1916 - so its just 1901 - 1916 your looking for  ???

Sandra
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline alan o

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 726
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: George J Brown - possible US Immigrant?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 July 18 19:46 BST (UK) »
Correct.  I know he was in wales in 1901 but have exhausted UK searches so I am now wondering whether he also went to the US. Are there any US records that he might be on?


Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 58,702
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: George J Brown - possible US Immigrant?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 July 18 20:15 BST (UK) »

You could try searching a couple of free sites - New York Passenger Lists (link below) - he may have gone via Canada.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1368704

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/passenger-lists/passenger-lists-1865-1922/pages/introduction.aspx


If he was in the USA - he should show on the 1910 census

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1727033

Sandra
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline alan o

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 726
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: George J Brown - possible US Immigrant?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 July 18 20:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks.  I am not having any joy with 1910 and bizarrely I can't find his son George and his wife Mary either but I know they were on Boston or New York then.

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 58,702
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: George J Brown - possible US Immigrant?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 29 July 18 21:16 BST (UK) »
Was he a"steward" on the ships in the early 1900's  ???  Noticed both George and Osborne were listed as Stewards in 1900.

On the passport application 8 June 1920 he was listed as a steward.

1930 census East 166 St. Bronx New York -

George brown 52 years - first married at 28 years - steward for private family. imm 1898. NA.
Mary was 50 years 0 first married at 28 years - imm 1902. NA.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7D8-D4T

1940 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQ5F-H9W


Sandra



"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline alan o

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 726
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: George J Brown - possible US Immigrant?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 July 18 21:21 BST (UK) »
I have found no record of him on a ship. I presumed  that he was a household  butler as his passport application stated he was resident in the US except for 2 trips to uk in 1900 and 1907.

Offline RJ137

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,713
    • View Profile
Re: George J Brown - possible US Immigrant?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 30 July 18 17:03 BST (UK) »
I have found no record of him on a ship. I presumed  that he was a household  butler as his passport application stated he was resident in the US except for 2 trips to uk in 1900 and 1907.

George Mortimer Brown married Mary Ellie McNamara in 1903.

Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:243Q-D4F

==
Here they are returning in 1907 from looks like a visit to Mary's father P. Mcnamara.

Ship's list: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JX24-KPR

They are on lines 25 & 26, Images 287 & 288
==

WWI Draft: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K6JM-P98

1920 Passport Application: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV5B-2W8M