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Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 30 July 18 16:30 BST (UK) »
they appear to be children of John Kelly and Ellen Fitzmaurice who married 1866
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Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 30 July 18 16:43 BST (UK) »
If Eugene Heavey (the father) was serving as a RIC officer in Kerry than he's not likely to be from Kerry I think.

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Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 30 July 18 16:47 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Sinann on Monday 30 July 18 16:43 BST (UK)
If Eugene Heavey (the father) was serving as a RIC officer in Kerry than he's not likely to be from Kerry I think.

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Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
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Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 30 July 18 16:55 BST (UK) »
Quite right. He is a very elusive character. The story is Eugene ( hubby's grandfather) was given his father's name. He was baptised Quilter but on the 1901 and 19011 census appears under the name Heavey living with his relatives. So I assume Heavey was the father's surname. His mother Bessie is there in 1901 but has moved by 1911. My mother in law says her husband talked of his grandmother so she must have been around after his mother died.There is no Eugene Heavey RIC who fits the bill but I did find an Owen. Bessie's brother was in the RIC and went onto become a sergeant. Again I assume it was through her brother Bessie met the RIC Heavey. I have been in contact with the RIC forum where I spoke with someone who it turns out is a  cousin of my husband who says his mother believed the RIC Heavey came from Athenry in Galway. Bessie never married and was a nurse or midwife. She stayed in the area up to 1911 at least and must have been some character! They are an interesting family to research!

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Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 30 July 18 16:56 BST (UK) »
Quote from: dathai on Monday 30 July 18 16:54 BST (UK)
he did'nt live with his father
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kerry/Kiltomy/Ahabeg_East/1420865/


 Eugene Heavey (the father) was serving as a RIC officer in Kerry than he's not likely to be from Kerry   
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« Reply #15 on: Monday 30 July 18 17:07 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Debbyh on Monday 30 July 18 16:55 BST (UK)
Quite right. He is a very elusive character. The story is Eugene ( hubby's grandfather) was given his father's name. He was baptised Quilter but on the 1901 and 19011 census appears under the name Heavey living with his relatives. So I assume Heavey was the father's surname. His mother Bessie is there in 1901 but has moved by 1911. My mother in law says her husband talked of his grandmother so she must have been around after his mother died.There is no Eugene Heavey RIC who fits the bill but I did find an Owen. Bessie's brother was in the RIC and went onto become a sergeant. Again I assume it was through her brother Bessie met the RIC Heavey. I have been in contact with the RIC forum where I spoke with someone who it turns out is a  cousin of my husband who says his mother believed the RIC Heavey came from Athenry in Galway. Bessie never married and was a nurse or midwife. She stayed in the area up to 1911 at least and must have been some character! They are an interesting family to research!

Stuffing everything into 1 paragraph makes difficult reading!!

Have you found the father who was in RIC in census??
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Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 30 July 18 17:18 BST (UK) »
My apologies! I have been tracking an Owen Heavey. My instinct is it was Owen as:
1.  when I looked into derivatives of the name Owen I found Eugene. Certainly the name Eugene does not appear in the Quilter line until then.
2.  He fits the bill as regards being born born in Athenry, Galway.
3. The info I also got was that Eugene RIC died in Dublin and the Owen Heavey I found did die in Dublin too
But I cannot be 100% sure it is him.

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Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 30 July 18 17:20 BST (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!
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