Hi
This could be the two Wiltshire’s that you are talking about, Old Joe sounds just like one of the old Barrow Boys, Street Traders, Hawking Fruit, I have records of other People around Nottingham, with the same names that you write about, local Wiltshires, in my researchers, in Town Village and City i have come across Wilshaws Willshires Wilshers Welshires who are just locals, these two Josephs below are quite tame, also they live at the same address, for some time to, you said the Wiltshire’s you write about were three generations out of the travelling times, there are families of local Wiltshire’s I have researched, the people you write about may also be just locals, you say you have read my posts, in them you will of read of many Josephs and Henrys, they are all around Camp sites and moving about often in big Family units with several wagons, some have shops in Nottingham as Marine Store Dealers, if you can connect back to these people that woman of mystery who said these two Josephs below came out of the older travelling Wiltshire’s may well be telling the truth, but again they are well tame especially the older Joseph, but like you say three generations is a long time, you never know i am sure you have much to tell, you have to be careful tho about what somone is suposed to have said yeares ago, there are people out there who tottaly fabricate storys, twist them for all kinds of reasons, just be careful, trust in the truth, its a great story, you have worked hard and collected much information, you are doing a fine job, you say you was never told anything about anything, evan if you find things, evan if things that you research turn out to be true, true again, it will always be just written records of the past, how will you ever understand, evan the greatest of researchers in this time as well as the past fail right at that moment when they think their hands are full.
Every thing I have gone off in my research, is from my father the son of Joseph Henry Wilsher 1929.
Joseph Henry Wilsher-1929/my father stated seeing a black and white photo of so called traveller ancestors held by Maggie... Its believed to be 2-3 generations before my gran* father. Maggie was meant too of said the traveller ancestors were living in wooden caravans and would deal in carpets and horses.
That said Joseph Wilsher 1907 atb is mostly unknown even to my father. Joseph Wilsher 1907 atb was meant to be a heavy drinker, a hawker/barrel boy and be unable to read/write. His child hood is a total mystery, as for his father the only scrap of information I have, is there was meant to be a tradition of calling their first born boy Joseph, if that is true then I would believe Joseph Wilsher atb1907 father to also be called Joseph.
I have always been told stories growing up of my past being travellers, I want to bring truth to any or all of what I can find with facts. I have ordered a DNA ancestry kit, hoping this will shed more light on the subject. By the end of it all, I do not care the out come but want to know the unknown of my past.