Need maiden surname of Ann Rees b.abt 1800 possibly in Gower peninsular

[osprey]

transcriptions of Llanrhidian baptisms are on FreeReg, parents shown as John & Ann Rees, but it appears that the parish is not included in the ones available via FindmyPast which have scans of the register. I haven't spotted a likely marriage from 1813 onwards - I have an index - nothing in Llanrhidian, and too many John Rees + Ann to take a guess.

[ianocon]

Thanks Osprey for your help
Looks as if I've reached a dead end with this particular branch - can't think where to go next.

[osprey]

the archives offer a research service

https://www.swansea.gov.uk/archivesresearchservice

or they may be a Rootschatter who could check for you

[rosie99]

Who were the witnesses of the marriage of Watkin Watkin & Ann

[ianocon]

Hi Rosie
Witnesses were
Amy (or Arny  - not likely?) Lloyd and Ann Morris - both made their mark.
Haven't come across those names in the research so far

[ianocon]

Osprey - thank you - such a good suggestion to go to Swansea archives.
They do hold Llanrhidian parish records and for a fiver did two scans for the date ranges I was suggesting
The baptism of Ann daughter of John and Ann Rees 20/11/1824
The marriage of John Rees and Ann Morris in Penclawdd - date 28/4/1820
Both sound likely because they also told me there were only two other marriages of John Rees with an Ann in Penclawdd and the dates were very distant from these.
So perhaps I have got back another generation.
Now I must consider the Morrises in Penclawdd!
Thanks again

[osprey]

that was worth a fiver!

There was a John & Mary Morris having children in Penclawdd a little later. An infant son Henry was buried 17 March 1810 residence Penclawdd.
Also a John Morris aged 26 buried 11 Jan 1819, no relatives mentioned.
A Mary Morris aged 71 was buried 29 April 1835.

[Stuart Davies]

My great great grandfather was Watkin Watkins, born about 1825. He was married to Ann (don't know last name or what year they married). Sorry to be a bit vague, but I've just found a pile of old documents and trying to put it all in order. He was widowed in 1861 and remarried in 1864 to Racel.
Other family members were, Thomas, Benjamin, Jane and possibly a step-son, Richard Humphreys.

[ianocon]

I've realized I didn't follow up on a finding by Osprey last July.
There were four baptisms on 7/1/1830. Piece 105 Llanrhidian.
Twins David and William and then Sarah all father "John Rees by his wife Ann". These three children appear in the 1841 family census.
Then there was "Jane a bastard child nursed by the above John Rees" also baptised on 7/1/1830.
The wording seems strange. Whose child was Jane?
I'm left wondering whether I should include Jane in the Rees family or not.
There is no Jane recorded in the family 1841 census and I can't find a Jane Rees elsewhere in Llanrhidian/Penclawdd - but maybe that's because she was not named Jane Rees?.
Also the baptism record doesn't say that John was the father - I suppose she could have been someone else's bastard child who John and Ann looked after for a while?
Was there a the custom in Wales about naming bastard children - did they take the father's name or might they have used the mother's surname. If she was John's child by another woman she was related to my family but probably not findable if she took her mother's name
Finally, shouldn't Jane been nursed "nursed by Ann Rees" ?
Any thoughts would be welcome